Antonio Pascual-Leone

for me, it was a very special relationship.

It was for them too.

And she was, she was brilliant.

She was like a prize winning researcher in endocrinology and very vivacious and sharp witted.

Right.

And so in some ways a role model.

And I remember her, you know, I've been writing this, this giant book, which is now finished, but I, you know, I, I mentioned her in the dedication and I was looking forward to showing it to her.

But it,

But she died.

The thing is, you know, she dies at 91, just this past year.

So there's the loss of the person.

But...

She also started to lose herself a little bit.

She suffered dementia in her last, it became more obvious in the last year or two.

And so she became quite different, right?

So, you know, I remember visiting her in Spain and sitting across from her and talking and she wasn't there anymore, right?

So it's quite hard to say goodbye to someone or to a relationship when they're sitting right there.

So that's kind of, you know, the analog is the person's there.

They're not really available.

I don't really want to say goodbye, but the relationship has ended, right?