Ari Matti

Let's fucking go because it's your addiction.

Yeah, let's fucking rock and roll.

But then, you know, as a child growing up in that environment, there would always be that point where you see him on the couch and that look, you know.

An alcoholic's look is, you know, the detachment of the soul.

It's a dangerous look.

Then it's time for you to go to your room, you know, and just fucking hang out there and wait for the storm to pass, you know.

Yeah.

And it's like... And it was like, yeah, there was always that point of like... It's such a creepy fucking...

And when you're a child, you're like, oh, don't do that.

But when you start getting older, you also feel like, start feeling empathetic of like, you know, I don't know the life he lived as well.

You know, substance abuse always works with trauma really well.

They go hand to hand.

So this guy's childhood, you know, the more I found out.

Because I hated him.

I fucking hated him.

He was, you know.

Absolutely.

That's what I found out later that he was in a, I thought I'm in a dark spot when he's home, you know.

And that's the Olympic Games one.

And when you're a leader, you don't want any of that information out there, you know, that you're a fucking... Also, there was zero stigma when they first created meth.