Ariana Grande

creating so much that I think like my insatiable need to just kind of make things and create and try to push myself to grow in different directions and you know learn new things and see what I can yeah I just I kind of try to focus on that as much as possible and I think it helps me survive otherwise I really think if I paid more attention that I would like not I would go away I think it's just too scary chase it yeah

That's such a scary thought to even think like, oh, what are they doing? thinking right now. Like the healthiest thing for me is to disconnect as much as humanly possible. Of course I have like the internet and I'm on my phone, you know, I, whatever, love Instagram. But you know, I'm a person who tries to maintain a healthy distance from it because I think

That's such a scary thought to even think like, oh, what are they doing? thinking right now. Like the healthiest thing for me is to disconnect as much as humanly possible. Of course I have like the internet and I'm on my phone, you know, I, whatever, love Instagram. But you know, I'm a person who tries to maintain a healthy distance from it because I think

It's like the same thing I would tell a young person who's like, what do you do when you hear no all the time? Those spikes feel like big no's again. It feels like I didn't get a call back for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and I'm eight years old or something.

It's like the same thing I would tell a young person who's like, what do you do when you hear no all the time? Those spikes feel like big no's again. It feels like I didn't get a call back for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and I'm eight years old or something.

Chitty Bang Bang.

Chitty Bang Bang.

Oh my goodness. First of all, all of you have to answer this hard-ass question after I'm done. Everyone has to answer. We're taking turns. This is the first official meeting of people pleasing recovery.

Oh my goodness. First of all, all of you have to answer this hard-ass question after I'm done. Everyone has to answer. We're taking turns. This is the first official meeting of people pleasing recovery.

Yeah, I suppose it's like, yeah, I mean, amen to that. I mean, how can we find that balance, maintain that balance, but also like is the work that I'm taking on something that can challenge me, that I can grow from, that I haven't done before, that I'm learning from, that I'm giving like to the character in the same way that it's maybe going to teach me or feed me? I don't know.

Yeah, I suppose it's like, yeah, I mean, amen to that. I mean, how can we find that balance, maintain that balance, but also like is the work that I'm taking on something that can challenge me, that I can grow from, that I haven't done before, that I'm learning from, that I'm giving like to the character in the same way that it's maybe going to teach me or feed me? I don't know.

Right. Totally.

Right. Totally.

Um, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, here's the thing.

Um, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, here's the thing.

I mean, that's very generous and kind. I just feel like it's kind of a really specific and strange thing to become a public person at, like, a really young age and then to have kind of all this normal growth that happens in...

I mean, that's very generous and kind. I just feel like it's kind of a really specific and strange thing to become a public person at, like, a really young age and then to have kind of all this normal growth that happens in...

in everyone's 20s and young teen years and whatever it is, in front of an audience and in front of people who, you know, don't have to have every mistake that they've ever made flashed in front of them and, like, reminded every two seconds. It's, like, it's interesting. It's, like, a funky thing. But, you know, all we can actually do is grow and, like... be human, become more and more human.

in everyone's 20s and young teen years and whatever it is, in front of an audience and in front of people who, you know, don't have to have every mistake that they've ever made flashed in front of them and, like, reminded every two seconds. It's, like, it's interesting. It's, like, a funky thing. But, you know, all we can actually do is grow and, like... be human, become more and more human.

I think in the face of being dehumanized and objectified, we can just become more and more human, I guess.