Arthur Allen

The rest of them, you know, I'm sure, I don't know, they probably break even on some of them or maybe make a small part of it, but they're not like blockbuster drugs.

The rest of them, you know, I'm sure, I don't know, they probably break even on some of them or maybe make a small part of it, but they're not like blockbuster drugs.

The rest of them, you know, I'm sure, I don't know, they probably break even on some of them or maybe make a small part of it, but they're not like blockbuster drugs.

That's right. And the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, that's at the CDC, when they make a recommendation for a vaccine, that automatically makes it available to poor kids through the Vaccine for Children. So Trump or RFK can take over the advisory committee and stack it with his people who could get rid of it altogether. It expires during Trump's term unless it gets renewed.

That's right. And the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, that's at the CDC, when they make a recommendation for a vaccine, that automatically makes it available to poor kids through the Vaccine for Children. So Trump or RFK can take over the advisory committee and stack it with his people who could get rid of it altogether. It expires during Trump's term unless it gets renewed.

That's right. And the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, that's at the CDC, when they make a recommendation for a vaccine, that automatically makes it available to poor kids through the Vaccine for Children. So Trump or RFK can take over the advisory committee and stack it with his people who could get rid of it altogether. It expires during Trump's term unless it gets renewed.

Well, there have been 16 measles outbreaks in the country this year. Whooping cough is on the upswing. That's partly because it's cyclical and because our current vaccine doesn't completely prevent infections, sort of like the COVID vaccine doesn't. Pertussis, I mean, it can be a very nasty disease, but it's usually not fatal unless you're a baby.

Well, there have been 16 measles outbreaks in the country this year. Whooping cough is on the upswing. That's partly because it's cyclical and because our current vaccine doesn't completely prevent infections, sort of like the COVID vaccine doesn't. Pertussis, I mean, it can be a very nasty disease, but it's usually not fatal unless you're a baby.

Well, there have been 16 measles outbreaks in the country this year. Whooping cough is on the upswing. That's partly because it's cyclical and because our current vaccine doesn't completely prevent infections, sort of like the COVID vaccine doesn't. Pertussis, I mean, it can be a very nasty disease, but it's usually not fatal unless you're a baby.

And so there could be low levels but growing levels of these diseases that just, you know, kind of happen and nobody really does anything about it. And it'll lead to chaos in emergency rooms. It'll lead to, you know, more strains on the healthcare system and it'll lead to deaths and misery, you know, for kids.

And so there could be low levels but growing levels of these diseases that just, you know, kind of happen and nobody really does anything about it. And it'll lead to chaos in emergency rooms. It'll lead to, you know, more strains on the healthcare system and it'll lead to deaths and misery, you know, for kids.

And so there could be low levels but growing levels of these diseases that just, you know, kind of happen and nobody really does anything about it. And it'll lead to chaos in emergency rooms. It'll lead to, you know, more strains on the healthcare system and it'll lead to deaths and misery, you know, for kids.

What worries me is like, even in a way you almost think, oh gee, if like five kids died of measles, would that like turn things around? But it's almost more worrisome to think, well, there could be five deaths of kids and it won't turn things around.

What worries me is like, even in a way you almost think, oh gee, if like five kids died of measles, would that like turn things around? But it's almost more worrisome to think, well, there could be five deaths of kids and it won't turn things around.

What worries me is like, even in a way you almost think, oh gee, if like five kids died of measles, would that like turn things around? But it's almost more worrisome to think, well, there could be five deaths of kids and it won't turn things around.

Well, I think, unfortunately, it would have to be some kind of a disaster that public health comes in and resolves. And it could be, you know, a terrible measles outbreak or epidemic or whooping cough epidemic that kills a bunch of babies. I mean, based on the historical example, that's when public health is really popular. And look at polio.

Well, I think, unfortunately, it would have to be some kind of a disaster that public health comes in and resolves. And it could be, you know, a terrible measles outbreak or epidemic or whooping cough epidemic that kills a bunch of babies. I mean, based on the historical example, that's when public health is really popular. And look at polio.

Well, I think, unfortunately, it would have to be some kind of a disaster that public health comes in and resolves. And it could be, you know, a terrible measles outbreak or epidemic or whooping cough epidemic that kills a bunch of babies. I mean, based on the historical example, that's when public health is really popular. And look at polio.

I mean, that was like probably the high moment for public health, you know, in the last 150 years. And that was this disease that everybody was afraid of. They came in with a vaccine and they, you know, wiped it out.

I mean, that was like probably the high moment for public health, you know, in the last 150 years. And that was this disease that everybody was afraid of. They came in with a vaccine and they, you know, wiped it out.