Arthur Brooks

And the most important hour they shouldn't have phones is during lunch, by the way.

because they need to- So it's even worse.

It's even worse.

I mean, most of what's going on in the classroom is not that interesting to begin with.

I mean, I don't think I ever learned anything in public school.

I think it was mostly babysitting, but at least I had friends and they don't have friends.

And then, and then people need phone fasts.

They need technology fasts.

I recommend 96 hours a year is kind of when this is, and there's a little bit of research on this that shows that this actually can break the relationship that you have.

So you prove to yourself that you actually don't need it.

And you're kind of in a state of bliss by the fourth day.

You know, it's really, really, I mean, I go on a spiritual retreat every year for four days, no phone.

Oh, it's great.

First day, it's like children screaming in my head.

Second day, I'm calming down.

Third day, I like it.

The fourth day, I wish it were the whole year.

That's what it comes down to.

But just those things, phone-free times, phone-free zones, phone fasts, can do this part two.

This does not give you part one, which is rebellion, or part three, which is you got to get comfortable back with yourself.