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Arthur Kroeber

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Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

But still, in most countries, it only accounts for about 15% to 20% of the total final consumption of energy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

So it is still actually a minor player in the global energy equation, despite having been around for 150 years and being very critical in a lot of applications.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

China very early on recognized –

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

that they needed a lot more electric power.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

The original reason was very prosaic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

They had a lot of power shortages in the early 2000s that were making it hard for their factories to run.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

And they said, oh, we've got to build a lot more generating capacity, most of it fueled by coal, just so we can keep our factories running.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

That was the first thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

And then they started to think about it a little bit more, and they started to say, hmm, actually, what do we want?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

Well, we know we're failing, as we talked about earlier, we know we're failing in this drive to make cars with internal combustion engines.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

And it looks like we're never going to be able to crack that nut and have our own Toyota or General Motors.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

But no one's making electric cars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

Maybe we can be the first to do electric cars, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

So they said, got to do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

Then they said, oh, we need to enhance our domestic transport infrastructure.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

Wouldn't it be great if we had a giant high-speed rail network just like Japan, except we're 20 times larger than Japan, so it has to be 20 times as big.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

So let's do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

And by the way, this is all going to be electrified.

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

So they created a couple of core hub industries, the premise for which was you need gigantic quantities of electricity to get these things working, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

If everyone has an electric car and everyone's charging their battery, huge draw, right?