Arthur Kroeber

If everyone is riding on electric trains instead of on planes, right?

Huge draw on electricity.

So we need to have a much more comprehensive idea about what our electricity grid is going to look like to support these industries that we want for other reasons.

And then, well, where do we want this electricity to come from?

Well, coal.

Yeah, we have a lot of coal, but it's really dirty.

It's a climate problem.

It's a very severe domestic air pollution problem.

This is really dirty.

So from an energy security and pollution standpoint, we're probably better off –

doing renewables because any other source of fuel for thermal power plants, we're going to have to import.

We don't have enough natural gas, right?

We can build nuclear, but that's hard to scale, and we don't have enough uranium.

If we build...

a renewable powered domestic electricity grid, we are self-sufficient forever because you don't have to import the sun or the wind, it's just there.

And so you can see how these things begin to build on one another.

It was not, again, it was not that they had the intelligent design plan in the year 2000, it was just sort of all these things came together.

And the result is today, China has generating capacity that is double, more than double that of the United States.

Their renewables generation capacity alone is as big as the entire generation capacity of the United States.

Electricity as a whole is now about 30% of China's total energy consumption.