Asena Basak
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So Renard told us that he was shot first in the leg. The second shot, according to Renard, hit Patricia on the left side of her chest. And then the third shot would have gone through her arm, exiting her arm and going into her right torso. But the medical examiner can't tell us the order of the shots. So we need to go by accounts of people.
Their theory was that he was in a different part of the house. That's why the sound is different. But we'll never know. The state couldn't prove that was a gunshot.
Their theory was that he was in a different part of the house. That's why the sound is different. But we'll never know. The state couldn't prove that was a gunshot.
Their theory was that he was in a different part of the house. That's why the sound is different. But we'll never know. The state couldn't prove that was a gunshot.
Yeah, he did testify under oath to those phone calls. The phone calls were listed on the arrest warrants with Times. And the state based a lot of their case on Ezra's statements. And I think that was a big factor in the case. During those conversations, Ezra tells Renard to get out of the house if things are that tense. And Renard says, I'm going to show her she's not getting the house.
Yeah, he did testify under oath to those phone calls. The phone calls were listed on the arrest warrants with Times. And the state based a lot of their case on Ezra's statements. And I think that was a big factor in the case. During those conversations, Ezra tells Renard to get out of the house if things are that tense. And Renard says, I'm going to show her she's not getting the house.
Yeah, he did testify under oath to those phone calls. The phone calls were listed on the arrest warrants with Times. And the state based a lot of their case on Ezra's statements. And I think that was a big factor in the case. During those conversations, Ezra tells Renard to get out of the house if things are that tense. And Renard says, I'm going to show her she's not getting the house.
This is all based on statements from Ezra. So the prosecution's motive was the house, but they just couldn't show the phone records at trial. The phone calls were made over apps. And they told us that they don't have the records. We found this out on location when we were interviewing Renard and Dick de Guerin. And I spent hours on the phone with Ezra prior to that.
This is all based on statements from Ezra. So the prosecution's motive was the house, but they just couldn't show the phone records at trial. The phone calls were made over apps. And they told us that they don't have the records. We found this out on location when we were interviewing Renard and Dick de Guerin. And I spent hours on the phone with Ezra prior to that.
This is all based on statements from Ezra. So the prosecution's motive was the house, but they just couldn't show the phone records at trial. The phone calls were made over apps. And they told us that they don't have the records. We found this out on location when we were interviewing Renard and Dick de Guerin. And I spent hours on the phone with Ezra prior to that.
And I was surprised and I was taken aback when I heard that this was news to me. So I arranged another meeting with Ezra and I asked. him, I said, were you truthful about these phone calls? And he said, yes, I was truthful. I did not lie. I wanted to tell them everything Renard told me that evening leading up to the shooting. So he told me he was telling the truth.
And I was surprised and I was taken aback when I heard that this was news to me. So I arranged another meeting with Ezra and I asked. him, I said, were you truthful about these phone calls? And he said, yes, I was truthful. I did not lie. I wanted to tell them everything Renard told me that evening leading up to the shooting. So he told me he was telling the truth.
And I was surprised and I was taken aback when I heard that this was news to me. So I arranged another meeting with Ezra and I asked. him, I said, were you truthful about these phone calls? And he said, yes, I was truthful. I did not lie. I wanted to tell them everything Renard told me that evening leading up to the shooting. So he told me he was telling the truth.
Lisa Andrews told us the defense in the end had two good arguments for the jurors, and those were self-defense and accidental shooting. So if somebody had a doubt about accidental shooting, self-defense was another explanation that Dick DeGaran and Michael DeGaran presented in court. And Dick was able to explain that there's no safety on the trigger. So it's really easy to fire this gun.
Lisa Andrews told us the defense in the end had two good arguments for the jurors, and those were self-defense and accidental shooting. So if somebody had a doubt about accidental shooting, self-defense was another explanation that Dick DeGaran and Michael DeGaran presented in court. And Dick was able to explain that there's no safety on the trigger. So it's really easy to fire this gun.
Lisa Andrews told us the defense in the end had two good arguments for the jurors, and those were self-defense and accidental shooting. So if somebody had a doubt about accidental shooting, self-defense was another explanation that Dick DeGaran and Michael DeGaran presented in court. And Dick was able to explain that there's no safety on the trigger. So it's really easy to fire this gun.
And she did say that she was numb. She became numb after the shooting and she wasn't feeling things the way maybe you would feel things after such a big loss. And she said, I was numb for such a long time. And I think that breakthrough for her did come through when Natalie was talking to her. It was heartbreaking.
And she did say that she was numb. She became numb after the shooting and she wasn't feeling things the way maybe you would feel things after such a big loss. And she said, I was numb for such a long time. And I think that breakthrough for her did come through when Natalie was talking to her. It was heartbreaking.
And she did say that she was numb. She became numb after the shooting and she wasn't feeling things the way maybe you would feel things after such a big loss. And she said, I was numb for such a long time. And I think that breakthrough for her did come through when Natalie was talking to her. It was heartbreaking.
He's also trying to go back to acting, he told me. Really? Because he was on a reality show, Justice with Christina Perez, as a bailiff. So he's also, I think, trying to revive his acting career.