Ash Kelley

It was only when reporters called the house that evening that Olga's family learned she was in fact dead and had been murdered.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

A reporter for the LA Times wrote, Mrs. Kupchick answered the phone, insisting on being told what the call was about.

When she was told, she moaned and left the telephone.

oh that's the kind of shit that you're like don't report on that that's horrific like i get yeah like certain things need to be reported on but like nobody deserves to know what her initial that's awful response was to finding that yeah that's really awful now from her jail cell in ventura county elizabeth duncan continued to say she was innocent she maintained that she was a victim of blackmail even though all of the evidence was pointing to the contrary

Gustafson told a reporter, as far as I'm concerned, the only reason Moya and Baldonado sought some money from Miss Duncan was because they wanted the pay they were promised for the job they did.

So she's saying, like, I was being blackmailed.

And he's like, no, you hired them to kill your daughter-in-law and they were looking for payment.

Which is not... They're all shitty.

It's just horrible all the way around.

But you're not a victim.

Yeah, exactly.

You're not a victim.

So less than a week later, Gustafsson presented the case to the grand jury, calling on almost a dozen witnesses.

So all of whom testified that Olga had been repeatedly being harassed by Elizabeth Duncan consistently and had actually gotten multiple death threats.

Yeah.

Given the number of people who had heard Elizabeth make all of these threats to or something similar, Gustafsson really didn't have a lot of trouble as portraying Elizabeth Duncan as a viciously overprotective mother with a deep hatred for Olga.

I don't even know if you can calling her an overprotective mother, even viciously overprotective, is even the correct thing to say.

She's just a monster.