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Ash Kelley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Appearances Over Time

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Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Yeah, you're all going down together.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Yeah.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

According to author Deborah Holt Larkin, which of course we'll link her book in the show notes, she wrote, Duncan's trial might never have stood up to today's legal standards, which is pretty true.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

It's highly likely that Gustafsson kind of tainted the jury a little bit with his repeated release of irrelevant facts.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

It's true.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

When you really do look at the legal part of that, like really pare it down to the skeleton there, you can't do that.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

We can look at it now and be like, well, yeah.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Yeah, we can talk about it, but if we were presenting this case to a jury, we really couldn't say those things.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

They're not pertinent to the case, unfortunately.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Yeah.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

The guilty verdict and the death sentence could have been more the result of a character assassination than a strong case put forward by the prosecution.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

But you also have to remember at the same time, it could have had a lot to do with the fact that Olga was eight months pregnant when she was killed.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

And the heaping mountain of evidence against Elizabeth.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Absolutely.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

I mean, you have several people who are telling and are showing a pretty clear paper trail and a pretty clear trail of evidence that lead back to this.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Right.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

And when the jury friends are saying that she knew that she was there, a woman who was literally there when she hired these men is like, I was right there.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

She's my friend.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

I'm actually wearing her sweater right now.

Morbid
The Murder of Olga Kupczyk (Part 2)

Yeah.