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think back to, you know, because also those days are done.

Like we don't have the budget anymore to be taking all these trips around the world and like doing junkets.

I got the last of the glory day.

I was the last one because we were here at parties like when I was on a radio and they were like, oh, 10 years ago, there would have been $10,000 worth of cocaine.

Yeah.

Not that I would ever partake.

Thank God never.

Like you hear those stories and you're like, man, this industry used to be real crazy.

And now I think is where the real creativity is required because the big budgets are gone and it all comes down to, well, how do we make money?

truly creative radio that doesn't cost as much but is going to get people's attention when there are 52,000 million other options.

Like what else would you do to sleep?

No.

Yeah, that was my window back.

You know, that was my way to process everything and to honour it.

You know, all these years of my life that I'd given to this world that I didn't think at the time I would ever return to.

Like I thought I was – the radio chapter was closed and I was going to write a book and then, I don't know, like be a meditation teacher or move to Italy or be an author.

Like I –

I thought I was done in radio.

You know, I didn't take mat leave.

I quit.