Ashley Darby

Well, yeah, I guess to that point, like doing an open relationship because because you're not ready to get a divorce yet so that that's your next route does seem like it's maybe not met with the best intentions.

I feel like when couples decide to like have an open relationship, it's because like

I don't know they're like spicing things up yeah they're like you know trying new things but they want to protect like this unit at home or you have young kids or something but I'm like Gwen's moving out like maybe and that's why Bronwyn was like this is the time that if I'm not happy the only person I'm going to be left with is Todd

And it kind of seemed like that when they were doing the bonsai trees and she was like, my mom's leaving me.

Now you're leaving me to her daughter.

That it was just like maybe that was kind of another like reality that was setting in.

That was just like, what is my life just being with Todd?

And maybe people also do say like kids change dynamics of a relationship.

So maybe with like everything that she's so focused on being gone and it's like you can either start your new life.

Or it's going to be you and Todd.

And maybe she thought that that was a little bit more daunting of a responsibility.

Yeah, that is interesting to like go back.

You know, you start out as a couple without kids and then you go through life, so much life with kids and other factors.

And then, yeah, when you're facing like going back to just the two of you, it's like what has changed in between that amount of time?

And like, what are you going back to?

I do think that's where a lot of couples struggle.

That's like after the kids, they've raised their children and now they're back into nesters.

And now it's like, oh my God.

You don't already have the timeshare picked out in Barbados.

Right.