Ashley Flowers

But, like, it's hard for me to imagine it happening at Matt's. And then if not, it's hard for me to imagine how Matt gets her in the middle of that field. I mean, biggest question, does Matt have Tom McCann shoes? Yeah. No. So they didn't find any Tom McCann dress shoes. They did take note of like a pair of boots that were like propped up against his couch.

But Don says those were the boots he was wearing the night Peggy died. They're not the prints that match anything in the field. And I get the sense that like those were his nice shoes. Like he didn't have a lot of... Not a dress shoe guy. Right. Right. And so maybe for all of those reasons, he didn't have Tom McCann's. He maybe had an alibi. He was acting how they expected him to act.

But Don says those were the boots he was wearing the night Peggy died. They're not the prints that match anything in the field. And I get the sense that like those were his nice shoes. Like he didn't have a lot of... Not a dress shoe guy. Right. Right. And so maybe for all of those reasons, he didn't have Tom McCann's. He maybe had an alibi. He was acting how they expected him to act.

Early on, people wrote him off, even though he, too, like Tim, failed a polygraph. And he failed the question, do you know who killed Peggy Hetrick? Like, the question. Yeah. But the polygrapher decided that he was probably telling the truth. And so that's Matt. Now, the other person we came across in the case file was a guy named Donnie Long.

Early on, people wrote him off, even though he, too, like Tim, failed a polygraph. And he failed the question, do you know who killed Peggy Hetrick? Like, the question. Yeah. But the polygrapher decided that he was probably telling the truth. And so that's Matt. Now, the other person we came across in the case file was a guy named Donnie Long.

So the same year that Peggy was murdered, there were two more murders. 39-year-old Linda Holt was stabbed nine times, bound, gagged, tied to a tree. Now, like Peggy's case, there was no sexual assault. But unlike Peggy's case, there was no mutilation to Linda. Then a couple of months after her, 30-year-old Mana Hughes is murdered. She's stabbed 14 times. No sexual assault.

So the same year that Peggy was murdered, there were two more murders. 39-year-old Linda Holt was stabbed nine times, bound, gagged, tied to a tree. Now, like Peggy's case, there was no sexual assault. But unlike Peggy's case, there was no mutilation to Linda. Then a couple of months after her, 30-year-old Mana Hughes is murdered. She's stabbed 14 times. No sexual assault.

Again, though, no mutilation. Now, pretty quickly, police kind of pull Peggy out of this, even though you've got three cases that happen within nine months of each other, within 30 miles, in an area that doesn't really see violent crime.

Again, though, no mutilation. Now, pretty quickly, police kind of pull Peggy out of this, even though you've got three cases that happen within nine months of each other, within 30 miles, in an area that doesn't really see violent crime.

That's Deck Investigates Brain. I know, but, like, I think it's about the mutilation. I think that's the why, very early on, they were like, Peggy doesn't fit in this pattern. And they end up finding the guy responsible for Linda and Mana. They end up getting this Donnie Long guy. Donnie ends up confessing to Linda and Mana's murders.

That's Deck Investigates Brain. I know, but, like, I think it's about the mutilation. I think that's the why, very early on, they were like, Peggy doesn't fit in this pattern. And they end up finding the guy responsible for Linda and Mana. They end up getting this Donnie Long guy. Donnie ends up confessing to Linda and Mana's murders.

Truly the bare minimum.

Truly the bare minimum.

This happened recently where I'm like working on this case out of Washington that I've been working on for like two years. And me and one of our reporters, Emily, we had a call with the FBI because we're like, listen, we're not saying it's Israel Keyes, but here's like 20 things we find very odd that we feel like someone other than us should know.

This happened recently where I'm like working on this case out of Washington that I've been working on for like two years. And me and one of our reporters, Emily, we had a call with the FBI because we're like, listen, we're not saying it's Israel Keyes, but here's like 20 things we find very odd that we feel like someone other than us should know.

And the agent was like, yeah, like, OK, we'll talk to you, but like, don't need to hear it. He only killed four people in the state. And I'm like, wait, how do you know he only killed four people in Washington? I feel like that's like news. Yeah. And he's like, but he told us that.

And the agent was like, yeah, like, OK, we'll talk to you, but like, don't need to hear it. He only killed four people in the state. And I'm like, wait, how do you know he only killed four people in Washington? I feel like that's like news. Yeah. And he's like, but he told us that.

Okay. So he said he didn't do it. So they think he didn't do it. We tried to write to him when he was in prison just to see if he would talk to us. We haven't heard back from him. Which brings me to the third person I want to go deep into. And I told you, everyone has like their person, like detectives. And for Ray Martinez, this next one is interesting.

Okay. So he said he didn't do it. So they think he didn't do it. We tried to write to him when he was in prison just to see if he would talk to us. We haven't heard back from him. Which brings me to the third person I want to go deep into. And I told you, everyone has like their person, like detectives. And for Ray Martinez, this next one is interesting.

And for me, he's the person, whether or not he had anything to do with Peggy's case, I am very interested in because I think there is a much bigger story behind him. And that is local ophthalmologist Dr. Richard Hammond. Now, in 1987, this dude is raising no red flags. He has a thriving practice. He has a wife, two teenage kids, like living the American dream.