Ashley Flowers
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Like, when they went to talk to him the first, like, day or two after they found Peggy, they did search his car and his place, and apparently they seized some... Wet clothes and shoes from his car and wet clothes from his apartment and not like damp. I mean, they said it looked like he'd gone swimming in these things.
But strangely, like a couple of days later, Matt comes asking for those things back and they just give them back. Sorry we didn't like wash and fold them for you.
But strangely, like a couple of days later, Matt comes asking for those things back and they just give them back. Sorry we didn't like wash and fold them for you.
I know. I know. But when you think about, like, at some point, I don't know what was happening years later. I think it was like probably the grand jury. They're looking at these pictures. They're asking Dawn about them. I think the implication was, did something happen in Matt's apartment after Dawn left? Right? Like, we got this maybe one and a half to two hours. Did a table break?
I know. I know. But when you think about, like, at some point, I don't know what was happening years later. I think it was like probably the grand jury. They're looking at these pictures. They're asking Dawn about them. I think the implication was, did something happen in Matt's apartment after Dawn left? Right? Like, we got this maybe one and a half to two hours. Did a table break?
Did these spots come after you left the house? Yeah. And I point that out specifically because there's one other thing that they collected early on that I think is important.
Did these spots come after you left the house? Yeah. And I point that out specifically because there's one other thing that they collected early on that I think is important.
Outside of Matt's apartment, they also found some footprints that matched the shoes Peggy was found in when she was killed and a pile of like 11 cigarette butts in the brand that Peggy was known to smoke outside of his place.
Outside of Matt's apartment, they also found some footprints that matched the shoes Peggy was found in when she was killed and a pile of like 11 cigarette butts in the brand that Peggy was known to smoke outside of his place.
I know. 11? I know. And when they talk to her friends, and this is like the little piece that comes out in that, like when I talk about the 2D image of her in the newspaper, when they talk to her friends, her friends did say, you know, it wouldn't have been that unusual. She gets jealous of like when it comes to Matt.
I know. 11? I know. And when they talk to her friends, and this is like the little piece that comes out in that, like when I talk about the 2D image of her in the newspaper, when they talk to her friends, her friends did say, you know, it wouldn't have been that unusual. She gets jealous of like when it comes to Matt.
It wouldn't have been weird if she saw him with another woman that night and then she went to his place to, we know she left ahead of them. Did she stake it out to see if he brought Dawn home? Did she stay and see if Dawn stayed or if Dawn left? And if she was still there when Dawn left, Then did something happen? Was there a confrontation at Matt's apartment?
It wouldn't have been weird if she saw him with another woman that night and then she went to his place to, we know she left ahead of them. Did she stake it out to see if he brought Dawn home? Did she stay and see if Dawn stayed or if Dawn left? And if she was still there when Dawn left, Then did something happen? Was there a confrontation at Matt's apartment?
The problem with that is... It doesn't fit the theory that the attack happens in the field. I know. Like there's pieces that are missing because in my mind, like if something happens with Matt, like it is a heat of the moment, like passion thing.
The problem with that is... It doesn't fit the theory that the attack happens in the field. I know. Like there's pieces that are missing because in my mind, like if something happens with Matt, like it is a heat of the moment, like passion thing.
It's hard for me to imagine a world where either something happens in his apartment or even he like gets her in the car and then takes her to this place where someone could see something. Takes her out of the car, stabs her, drags her. Like, I can't make it add up.
It's hard for me to imagine a world where either something happens in his apartment or even he like gets her in the car and then takes her to this place where someone could see something. Takes her out of the car, stabs her, drags her. Like, I can't make it add up.
Like, was there a history of that? There's nothing, like, reported that I can find. In Matt's, like, criminal history, he doesn't have anything violent. I mean, there's, like, some DUIs and stuff like that, but no, like, domestic charges, nothing like that. Which is why I go back to, I think if something happened between them, it was heat of the moment.
Like, was there a history of that? There's nothing, like, reported that I can find. In Matt's, like, criminal history, he doesn't have anything violent. I mean, there's, like, some DUIs and stuff like that, but no, like, domestic charges, nothing like that. Which is why I go back to, I think if something happened between them, it was heat of the moment.
But, like, it's hard for me to imagine it happening at Matt's. And then if not, it's hard for me to imagine how Matt gets her in the middle of that field. I mean, biggest question, does Matt have Tom McCann shoes? Yeah. No. So they didn't find any Tom McCann dress shoes. They did take note of like a pair of boots that were like propped up against his couch.