Ashley Flowers
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And Dawn is like, well, I have one of those. So this probably isn't going to work out. And so she ends up leaving. But when she talked to us, there was something else that she told us that really stood out to her. She said that when she was in his apartment that night, it felt strange because she said it was so clean.
Like not just clean for a boy kind of apartment, but like she's like, I couldn't find, you know, a piece of clothing on the closet floor. There was not a fork to be found in the sink. Like it felt like no one lived there. which was weird at the time, whatever.
Like not just clean for a boy kind of apartment, but like she's like, I couldn't find, you know, a piece of clothing on the closet floor. There was not a fork to be found in the sink. Like it felt like no one lived there. which was weird at the time, whatever.
But she said what was really strange for her was that police brought her back at some point years later, and they were asking her questions about Matt's apartment specifically. And they were asking her, like, had you seen a broken coffee table? Had you seen some spots on the floor? And they're, like, showing her pictures of the apartment. And we're going to have one of these pictures up
But she said what was really strange for her was that police brought her back at some point years later, and they were asking her questions about Matt's apartment specifically. And they were asking her, like, had you seen a broken coffee table? Had you seen some spots on the floor? And they're, like, showing her pictures of the apartment. And we're going to have one of these pictures up
I, I think like you, we talked about this. We're like originally imagining like a shattered coffee table.
I, I think like you, we talked about this. We're like originally imagining like a shattered coffee table.
It's like this like piece of wood propping up one of the legs.
It's like this like piece of wood propping up one of the legs.
Fully something my husband would like do and then be like, it's fine for years if it was his apartment. Yes. So, and then the spots, like they're not like overtly blood or anything. There's just a couple of them. I don't know if they ever get those tested. And... Again, Dawn is saying, no, I never saw any of that because, again, it's so clean.
Fully something my husband would like do and then be like, it's fine for years if it was his apartment. Yes. So, and then the spots, like they're not like overtly blood or anything. There's just a couple of them. I don't know if they ever get those tested. And... Again, Dawn is saying, no, I never saw any of that because, again, it's so clean.
But she said that wasn't even really the takeaway for her. As they're showing her these pictures, the takeaway for her is like, that's not the apartment I was in. Which it was like full body chills when she was telling us that. And it's not like it was a completely different. She said it looked the same. The layout was the same. But this one looked different. lived in. So lived in.
But she said that wasn't even really the takeaway for her. As they're showing her these pictures, the takeaway for her is like, that's not the apartment I was in. Which it was like full body chills when she was telling us that. And it's not like it was a completely different. She said it looked the same. The layout was the same. But this one looked different. lived in. So lived in.
I mean, if you see the pictures, there's like laundry everywhere. There's like stuff on the counters. Like, make no mistake, this dude lives here.
I mean, if you see the pictures, there's like laundry everywhere. There's like stuff on the counters. Like, make no mistake, this dude lives here.
They'd been drinking, like, this... And when they're showing her these pictures, I mean, this is, like, years later, too. So, yes, I mean, there could be, like... And I don't even know what to, like, make of this memory other than it's just so strange. But there were other strange things about Matt as well.
They'd been drinking, like, this... And when they're showing her these pictures, I mean, this is, like, years later, too. So, yes, I mean, there could be, like... And I don't even know what to, like, make of this memory other than it's just so strange. But there were other strange things about Matt as well.
Like, when they went to talk to him the first, like, day or two after they found Peggy, they did search his car and his place, and apparently they seized some... Wet clothes and shoes from his car and wet clothes from his apartment and not like damp. I mean, they said it looked like he'd gone swimming in these things.