Ashley Flowers
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Now, he does tell police, though, that even though their conversation was normal, it was great, she made mention, Peggy did, that she was seeing someone new during this time, which he thought police should know.
Like, was she bluffing? I don't know. I don't know. So there's like some indications that maybe she was seeing someone like casually. I think it's also important to know that like Matt is that guy she would always go back to. there in Colorado. And so much so that I found out that earlier in that week, I mean, they had had dinner together.
Like, was she bluffing? I don't know. I don't know. So there's like some indications that maybe she was seeing someone like casually. I think it's also important to know that like Matt is that guy she would always go back to. there in Colorado. And so much so that I found out that earlier in that week, I mean, they had had dinner together.
Also, apparently though, as far as I can tell, not something that police asked him about, which is like, seems like a miss to me because like, they're very much in each other's lives. And like, what did you talk about? What were the days leading up to it? I don't know. Well, and the police don't ask about the note.
Also, apparently though, as far as I can tell, not something that police asked him about, which is like, seems like a miss to me because like, they're very much in each other's lives. And like, what did you talk about? What were the days leading up to it? I don't know. Well, and the police don't ask about the note.
They did. They did check his alibi. They found maybe Sean. And our reporter Emily actually found her all these years later and spoke to her. Turns out maybe Sean, her name is actually Dawn.
They did. They did check his alibi. They found maybe Sean. And our reporter Emily actually found her all these years later and spoke to her. Turns out maybe Sean, her name is actually Dawn.
So close. And her story is interesting. It adds a little bit of context, a little bit of color. She says that they really did just meet earlier that night. They had saw each other in another bar and she said they recognized each other because Matt, like a while ago, had sold her a car. So like they'd been in the same orbit before, but didn't even know each other's names, clearly.
So close. And her story is interesting. It adds a little bit of context, a little bit of color. She says that they really did just meet earlier that night. They had saw each other in another bar and she said they recognized each other because Matt, like a while ago, had sold her a car. So like they'd been in the same orbit before, but didn't even know each other's names, clearly.
She said Matt came over to her and was like, hey, you know. When you're done with your friend, you should come to prime minister and hang out with me, which is what she did. She says she shows up later in the evening. And when she walks in, Matt is talking to this other woman who she figures out later is Peggy. Didn't know Peggy at the time.
She said Matt came over to her and was like, hey, you know. When you're done with your friend, you should come to prime minister and hang out with me, which is what she did. She says she shows up later in the evening. And when she walks in, Matt is talking to this other woman who she figures out later is Peggy. Didn't know Peggy at the time.
And she says she kind of hangs back for a little while and waits. But a couple minutes go by. He's still talking. So she decides to approach him. As soon as she approaches, Peggy like turns at the bar and starts talking to the guy next to her. And so Don just made the assumption that Peggy was with that other guy. And Matt doesn't introduce Dawn or anything. He just is like, hey, go get a table.
And she says she kind of hangs back for a little while and waits. But a couple minutes go by. He's still talking. So she decides to approach him. As soon as she approaches, Peggy like turns at the bar and starts talking to the guy next to her. And so Don just made the assumption that Peggy was with that other guy. And Matt doesn't introduce Dawn or anything. He just is like, hey, go get a table.
So Dawn goes to get a table for four, thinking that maybe the other couple is going to join them. But just Matt comes back. And she says she didn't ask him about it. She didn't even ask him about the woman when she realized Matt's like kind of keeping an eye on her all night. Like they just met. She doesn't know the history, but like she's not going to dig too deep.
So Dawn goes to get a table for four, thinking that maybe the other couple is going to join them. But just Matt comes back. And she says she didn't ask him about it. She didn't even ask him about the woman when she realized Matt's like kind of keeping an eye on her all night. Like they just met. She doesn't know the history, but like she's not going to dig too deep.
They're like having a decent time. And they do. They stay till last call. She goes home with Matt. They talk. They kiss a little. She says the night ends for like a combination of reasons. Like, you know, he's doing the like, oh, like I got to work in the morning. And then he also makes this comment about how he hates kids, like not like dislikes kids, like hates them.
They're like having a decent time. And they do. They stay till last call. She goes home with Matt. They talk. They kiss a little. She says the night ends for like a combination of reasons. Like, you know, he's doing the like, oh, like I got to work in the morning. And then he also makes this comment about how he hates kids, like not like dislikes kids, like hates them.
And Dawn is like, well, I have one of those. So this probably isn't going to work out. And so she ends up leaving. But when she talked to us, there was something else that she told us that really stood out to her. She said that when she was in his apartment that night, it felt strange because she said it was so clean.