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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

All right, when talking about people we should be looking at, viable potential suspects, the first that comes up is Peggy's on-again, off-again boyfriend, Matt Zollner, who was 29 in 1987. And every detective, I think, has their person, right, that they look into the most. And for Linda Wheeler, it is Matt Zollner.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Now, Ray Martinez, one of the detectives we talked about who was like first on the scene for Peggy's case last time, he said a lot of people were quick to write Matt off. Maybe because of his behavior, like he was acting how they expected. Maybe because he had an alibi. If you remember, Matt said that he had met that woman, maybe Sean.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Now, Ray Martinez, one of the detectives we talked about who was like first on the scene for Peggy's case last time, he said a lot of people were quick to write Matt off. Maybe because of his behavior, like he was acting how they expected. Maybe because he had an alibi. If you remember, Matt said that he had met that woman, maybe Sean.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Again, just met her, didn't even remember her name, but he was with her till last call. Then she's at his place till like 3, 3.30 in the morning. And a lot of what you'll see about Peggy's death is that she died between 1 and 3 a.m., which, yes, Matt would have an alibi. Except when we got access to a lot of the investigative files, what we realize is in the report, it's actually a wider range.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Again, just met her, didn't even remember her name, but he was with her till last call. Then she's at his place till like 3, 3.30 in the morning. And a lot of what you'll see about Peggy's death is that she died between 1 and 3 a.m., which, yes, Matt would have an alibi. Except when we got access to a lot of the investigative files, what we realize is in the report, it's actually a wider range.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

I mean, they settle on one to three, but the true range of time is between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m., meaning that there's potentially an hour and a half, two hours that Matt is unaccounted for if she died in those later time frame. The other thing, which I haven't told anyone yet, been saving this up my sleeve, is that when Peggy was found, in her purse was a note that she had written to Matt.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

I mean, they settle on one to three, but the true range of time is between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m., meaning that there's potentially an hour and a half, two hours that Matt is unaccounted for if she died in those later time frame. The other thing, which I haven't told anyone yet, been saving this up my sleeve, is that when Peggy was found, in her purse was a note that she had written to Matt.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Seemingly that very evening she died. And so Britt, I'm going to have you read the note.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Seemingly that very evening she died. And so Britt, I'm going to have you read the note.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

No, no, this is in her bag. And so Matt actually lived even closer to the prime minister than Peggy did. So there are like, you know, two possibilities here. Either she goes and like puts this on Matt's door and then she goes out. She ends up getting back into her place and then goes back to Matt's and collects the note because she no longer needs to show up at his place at 2 a.m.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

No, no, this is in her bag. And so Matt actually lived even closer to the prime minister than Peggy did. So there are like, you know, two possibilities here. Either she goes and like puts this on Matt's door and then she goes out. She ends up getting back into her place and then goes back to Matt's and collects the note because she no longer needs to show up at his place at 2 a.m.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Or she writes the note, goes out, ends up getting back into her place before she ever drops the note off. She's in. It doesn't even matter anymore. And it's like a moot point. It's like living in her purse and maybe she forgot about it. I don't know.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Or she writes the note, goes out, ends up getting back into her place before she ever drops the note off. She's in. It doesn't even matter anymore. And it's like a moot point. It's like living in her purse and maybe she forgot about it. I don't know.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like, what did he say about it? Well, that's the thing. So based on the files that I've seen, it doesn't appear like they ask him about it, which like maybe they're just writing it off. But to me, it feels like it feels really interesting. Like, did she plan on coming to your place? Did you know she was planning on coming to your place?

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like, what did he say about it? Well, that's the thing. So based on the files that I've seen, it doesn't appear like they ask him about it, which like maybe they're just writing it off. But to me, it feels like it feels really interesting. Like, did she plan on coming to your place? Did you know she was planning on coming to your place?

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

like something yeah and we know they spoke and that like him her coming to his house was never a part of the story he told when they spoke so just a reminder of his story so matt drove that night because he was kind of bopping around to different places and he said that when he got to the prime minister peggy was arriving at the same time they are like at the bar they're chatting for a little bit like everything's normal and then his date this girl he's supposed to meet up with comes again maybe sean is he thinks it's her name they just met that night

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

like something yeah and we know they spoke and that like him her coming to his house was never a part of the story he told when they spoke so just a reminder of his story so matt drove that night because he was kind of bopping around to different places and he said that when he got to the prime minister peggy was arriving at the same time they are like at the bar they're chatting for a little bit like everything's normal and then his date this girl he's supposed to meet up with comes again maybe sean is he thinks it's her name they just met that night

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And he says that he offered Peggy a ride. She said yes originally. But then like at some point in the evening, he went to the bathroom. He's coming out. Peggy's leaving. So he's like, oh, she must have changed her mind. Whatever. He stays till last call with maybe Sean. And then they go back to his place till 3 or 3.30.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And he says that he offered Peggy a ride. She said yes originally. But then like at some point in the evening, he went to the bathroom. He's coming out. Peggy's leaving. So he's like, oh, she must have changed her mind. Whatever. He stays till last call with maybe Sean. And then they go back to his place till 3 or 3.30.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Now, he does tell police, though, that even though their conversation was normal, it was great, she made mention, Peggy did, that she was seeing someone new during this time, which he thought police should know.