Ashley Flowers

Like every decision was made for them, even after the cops basically treated them like suspects. Oh, and remember how I told you, like we found out that like there was a file that said some of the DA's office had socialized at Hammond's, might be on the tapes, whatever. Well, when we finally got to track down Judge Terry Gilmore, that was obviously one of the things we asked him specifically about.

We weren't able to talk to anyone else. And he confirmed that the destruction of the tapes did go against regular policy. And he admitted to knowing Dr. Hammond personally before his arrest. But he says that he only socialized with him one time and that he was never at the doctor's home. And that's kind of where that ended. Okay.

We weren't able to talk to anyone else. And he confirmed that the destruction of the tapes did go against regular policy. And he admitted to knowing Dr. Hammond personally before his arrest. But he says that he only socialized with him one time and that he was never at the doctor's home. And that's kind of where that ended. Okay.

And then there's one more thing that I want to mention before we wrap things up on Hammond. So we got a hold of a woman who in 1988-ish went to the eye clinic where Hammond worked for an emergency. Like her son got like a sandy snowball lodged in his eye or whatever. Now, Hammond is not the regular doctor, but he was the one on call that weekend. So they're alone in the eye clinic with him.

And then there's one more thing that I want to mention before we wrap things up on Hammond. So we got a hold of a woman who in 1988-ish went to the eye clinic where Hammond worked for an emergency. Like her son got like a sandy snowball lodged in his eye or whatever. Now, Hammond is not the regular doctor, but he was the one on call that weekend. So they're alone in the eye clinic with him.

And Dr. Hammond was treating the boy. He's like 9 or 10. And his mom had to use the restroom. So she went to the closest one that she could find, which was the men's stall. But Dr. Hammond came and like physically blocked her from using the men's restroom. And he insisted that she had to use the women's restroom. And she's like, okay, like whatever, dude.

And Dr. Hammond was treating the boy. He's like 9 or 10. And his mom had to use the restroom. So she went to the closest one that she could find, which was the men's stall. But Dr. Hammond came and like physically blocked her from using the men's restroom. And he insisted that she had to use the women's restroom. And she's like, okay, like whatever, dude.

And when she got inside and flipped the light switch on, she heard this like whirring noise.

And when she got inside and flipped the light switch on, she heard this like whirring noise.

And what they ended up determining at his house is like it's the light switch. So when you turn it on, that triggered it to start recording. So he didn't even have to be there. And she's hearing this at his office. Now, she says in the moment, she was certain it was a camera. Not even like years later, but in that moment.

And what they ended up determining at his house is like it's the light switch. So when you turn it on, that triggered it to start recording. So he didn't even have to be there. And she's hearing this at his office. Now, she says in the moment, she was certain it was a camera. Not even like years later, but in that moment.

Like specifically one of those big cameras from the 80s that had that distinct sound when it turned on, specifically when it focused. And she even flipped the light switch off because she was like so freaked out. She was like looking for a red light or any sign that she was being recorded. Wait, did police find cameras at his practice? I mean, did they even search it? So it depends on who you ask.

Like specifically one of those big cameras from the 80s that had that distinct sound when it turned on, specifically when it focused. And she even flipped the light switch off because she was like so freaked out. She was like looking for a red light or any sign that she was being recorded. Wait, did police find cameras at his practice? I mean, did they even search it? So it depends on who you ask.

Ray Martinez told us that they didn't. But our reporters found an old article at the CSU archives that said they did search the doctor's office. But that article also had some other wrong information in it. So I don't really know for sure.

Ray Martinez told us that they didn't. But our reporters found an old article at the CSU archives that said they did search the doctor's office. But that article also had some other wrong information in it. So I don't really know for sure.

Yeah. I mean, Ray Martinez worked the case. Like, I want to trust him. But like, it's also been so many years. You never know. So anyways, fast forward seven years, and this woman is like seeing the headlines about Dr. Hammond's cameras in his basement. And she's like, she has this like, oh, my God moment, like what I thought was real. Did she tell the police about her encounter?

Yeah. I mean, Ray Martinez worked the case. Like, I want to trust him. But like, it's also been so many years. You never know. So anyways, fast forward seven years, and this woman is like seeing the headlines about Dr. Hammond's cameras in his basement. And she's like, she has this like, oh, my God moment, like what I thought was real. Did she tell the police about her encounter?

No, not right away. She said that once she realized Dr. Hammond had died, she wasn't sure what could even be done. But as years went by, she kind of got curious as to whether she was on any of the tapes. Right. Then obviously she found out Fort Collins PD had destroyed them and that there was no way of knowing, which tells me, again, that they burned all those tapes.

No, not right away. She said that once she realized Dr. Hammond had died, she wasn't sure what could even be done. But as years went by, she kind of got curious as to whether she was on any of the tapes. Right. Then obviously she found out Fort Collins PD had destroyed them and that there was no way of knowing, which tells me, again, that they burned all those tapes.

Like, it's more proof to me that they did that before identifying all of the victims, that they didn't want to re-victimize by telling them they were victims. Now, the only thing she was told by police was that there was some tapes that looked to be in a different room than the bathroom. So clearly somewhere else was being filmed. Yeah. They never followed up with her after that.