Ashley Flowers

We listen and we don't judge.

That's what I do.

Oh, we're out now.

I judge a lot.

Okay.

So there wasn't one case that like turned you on to true crime.

It was just, was it more that so many things couldn't be solved or-

I mean, I'm definitely drawn to unsolved case cases over solved ones.

I mean, I think that there's like a there's like two things that are like constantly drawing me to these.

And I think in like the solved cases, it's we have a saying crime junkies that like we're not paranoid, we're pro-paranoid.

Like I wanted to look for all of the things that like if I were ever in this situation, what would I do?

What led up to this?

What do I look out for in a relationship?

Like what are the red flags?

So in a lot of the solved cases, I feel like what we find is education, self-preservation.

And then in the unsolved cases, I mean, I, my dream was to, like, be a detective.

I'm, like, sure if, like, I can get the right case file, if I can talk to the right person, like, surely I can solve the mystery.

And I think our brains, like, love a mystery.

I don't think it manifests as true crime maybe for everyone.

But, like, we look for order where there isn't any.