Ashley Flowers

And, I mean, like, it's like missing person cases I'm obsessed with.

Like, how is someone here?

One second.

Right.

gone the next nancy guthrie i mean is that not what are you heartbreaking i don't know i'm just like are you this is 2026 there is nothing like we don't that i can't i can't even believe that but i'm also like very conspiratorial so like me too i don't know if i know enough about this case but like all the things i was reading about the brother-in-law and that kind of stuff i'm like

We did a whole like episode in our fan club where I was like, you guys, there's like weird stuff happening in the background.

The ransom notes going to all the media outlets.

I know.

How weird was that?

I know.

I know.

It's so much.

And I just I can't understand that in 2026, there's not like you said, that's what I don't believe that there's not one piece of information.

I just they're not.

They're not telling us, which is like so common with law enforcement.

Right.

As we work with so many families, like we're not just telling these stories.

We're working with law enforcement.

We're working with families.

And it is wild how they like are going through the most traumatic experience of their life.