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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

That for me, like this thing is what really painted a picture.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

When the responding deputy testified on the witness stand about the bed, he said that when he pulled the covers back, he found that it was wet in the middle, about where JoJo's bottom would have been if he was laying on the bed.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Just that area?

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Yes, from what I can tell, that's what he's saying.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Now, the thing I don't know for sure is if that wetness was water or urine and if that wetness happened before or after the toilet bowl losing water.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Like, did JoJo have an accident?

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And then whatever happened after that was prompted by that accident.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

I thought, but the front of him is what is wet.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

As if his, in my mind, as if his face were pushed into the bowl of water and then the water ran down the front of him when he was pulled out.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

It's cut and dry when someone immediately dies from drowning.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

This one is complicated because of the fact that Jojo didn't die right away, right?

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

In the hospital for days.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

During this hearing, the medical examiner testifies that there was water present in Joseph's airways.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

But that doesn't necessarily mean drowning because Joseph had been on a ventilator for several days before he died.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And the ME testified that fluid in the airways can be consistent with prolonged ventilator use.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

So according to this ME, there is just no way to narrow down the list by testing for drowning in cases like this, which means the autopsy can say asphyxia, meaning he couldn't get oxygen.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

It can say that there is a concern for something, but it can't say how.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

The oxygen deprivation happened.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Now, the state's argument is that if the toy chest theory doesn't work and drowning can't be ruled out and there is no trauma, then the only explanation left is that someone caused the asphyxiation.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And the only someone in that house was Brandon.