Ashley Flowers
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And she says she kind of hangs back for a little while and waits. But a couple minutes go by. He's still talking. So she decides to approach him. As soon as she approaches, Peggy like turns at the bar and starts talking to the guy next to her. And so Don just made the assumption that Peggy was with that other guy. And Matt doesn't introduce Dawn or anything. He just is like, hey, go get a table.
And she says she kind of hangs back for a little while and waits. But a couple minutes go by. He's still talking. So she decides to approach him. As soon as she approaches, Peggy like turns at the bar and starts talking to the guy next to her. And so Don just made the assumption that Peggy was with that other guy. And Matt doesn't introduce Dawn or anything. He just is like, hey, go get a table.
So Dawn goes to get a table for four, thinking that maybe the other couple is going to join them. But just Matt comes back. And she says she didn't ask him about it. She didn't even ask him about the woman when she realized Matt's like kind of keeping an eye on her all night. Like they just met. She doesn't know the history, but like she's not going to dig too deep.
So Dawn goes to get a table for four, thinking that maybe the other couple is going to join them. But just Matt comes back. And she says she didn't ask him about it. She didn't even ask him about the woman when she realized Matt's like kind of keeping an eye on her all night. Like they just met. She doesn't know the history, but like she's not going to dig too deep.
They're like having a decent time. And they do. They stay till last call. She goes home with Matt. They talk. They kiss a little. She says the night ends for like a combination of reasons. Like, you know, he's doing the like, oh, like I got to work in the morning. And then he also makes this comment about how he hates kids, like not like dislikes kids, like hates them.
They're like having a decent time. And they do. They stay till last call. She goes home with Matt. They talk. They kiss a little. She says the night ends for like a combination of reasons. Like, you know, he's doing the like, oh, like I got to work in the morning. And then he also makes this comment about how he hates kids, like not like dislikes kids, like hates them.
And Dawn is like, well, I have one of those. So this probably isn't going to work out. And so she ends up leaving. But when she talked to us, there was something else that she told us that really stood out to her. She said that when she was in his apartment that night, it felt strange because she said it was so clean.
And Dawn is like, well, I have one of those. So this probably isn't going to work out. And so she ends up leaving. But when she talked to us, there was something else that she told us that really stood out to her. She said that when she was in his apartment that night, it felt strange because she said it was so clean.
Like not just clean for a boy kind of apartment, but like she's like, I couldn't find, you know, a piece of clothing on the closet floor. There was not a fork to be found in the sink. Like it felt like no one lived there. which was weird at the time, whatever.
Like not just clean for a boy kind of apartment, but like she's like, I couldn't find, you know, a piece of clothing on the closet floor. There was not a fork to be found in the sink. Like it felt like no one lived there. which was weird at the time, whatever.
But she said what was really strange for her was that police brought her back at some point years later, and they were asking her questions about Matt's apartment specifically. And they were asking her, like, had you seen a broken coffee table? Had you seen some spots on the floor? And they're, like, showing her pictures of the apartment. And we're going to have one of these pictures up
But she said what was really strange for her was that police brought her back at some point years later, and they were asking her questions about Matt's apartment specifically. And they were asking her, like, had you seen a broken coffee table? Had you seen some spots on the floor? And they're, like, showing her pictures of the apartment. And we're going to have one of these pictures up
I, I think like you, we talked about this. We're like originally imagining like a shattered coffee table.
I, I think like you, we talked about this. We're like originally imagining like a shattered coffee table.
It's like this like piece of wood propping up one of the legs.
It's like this like piece of wood propping up one of the legs.
Fully something my husband would like do and then be like, it's fine for years if it was his apartment. Yes. So, and then the spots, like they're not like overtly blood or anything. There's just a couple of them. I don't know if they ever get those tested. And... Again, Dawn is saying, no, I never saw any of that because, again, it's so clean.
Fully something my husband would like do and then be like, it's fine for years if it was his apartment. Yes. So, and then the spots, like they're not like overtly blood or anything. There's just a couple of them. I don't know if they ever get those tested. And... Again, Dawn is saying, no, I never saw any of that because, again, it's so clean.
But she said that wasn't even really the takeaway for her. As they're showing her these pictures, the takeaway for her is like, that's not the apartment I was in. Which it was like full body chills when she was telling us that. And it's not like it was a completely different. She said it looked the same. The layout was the same. But this one looked different. lived in. So lived in.
But she said that wasn't even really the takeaway for her. As they're showing her these pictures, the takeaway for her is like, that's not the apartment I was in. Which it was like full body chills when she was telling us that. And it's not like it was a completely different. She said it looked the same. The layout was the same. But this one looked different. lived in. So lived in.