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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

It makes the story feel plausible.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

But there is the nuance that like comes out in court.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Testimony clarified that this specific chest, the one that they're saying JoJo might have gotten trapped in, it was not confirmed to be part of any recall.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

So it's not like investigators found a recall sticker or a defect notice like tied to this exact chest.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And remember, even if JoJo had been locked inside the chest... I was just about to bring up, like, the chest is not... It's a more point.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

It's not airtight.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Like, air passes through.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

So, exactly.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

It is irrelevant to me if other kids died in similar chests.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

A kid could not die in this chest.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

There was no gasket or seal that would make it airtight.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And that is where the state lands.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

They're not arguing that toy chest accidents have never happened.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

They're arguing that this specific one does not explain the scene that they're presented with.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

Because if the chest isn't airtight, if the mannequin barely fits in it, if there is moisture elsewhere and not in the chest, then the explanation changes.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

After days of testimony...

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

After the timelines dissected, the CPR thing, the wetness, the toy chest testing, and amended autopsy are all laid out in that courtroom, it's time for the judge to rule.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

And remember, this is not a murder trial.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

This is the judge, yeah, isn't being asked to determine exactly how JoJo died.

Crime Junkie
MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF: Joseph “Jo-Jo” King III

He is being asked one thing.