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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

The problem with that is... It doesn't fit the theory that the attack happens in the field. I know. Like there's pieces that are missing because in my mind, like if something happens with Matt, like it is a heat of the moment, like passion thing.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

The problem with that is... It doesn't fit the theory that the attack happens in the field. I know. Like there's pieces that are missing because in my mind, like if something happens with Matt, like it is a heat of the moment, like passion thing.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

It's hard for me to imagine a world where either something happens in his apartment or even he like gets her in the car and then takes her to this place where someone could see something. Takes her out of the car, stabs her, drags her. Like, I can't make it add up.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

It's hard for me to imagine a world where either something happens in his apartment or even he like gets her in the car and then takes her to this place where someone could see something. Takes her out of the car, stabs her, drags her. Like, I can't make it add up.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like, was there a history of that? There's nothing, like, reported that I can find. In Matt's, like, criminal history, he doesn't have anything violent. I mean, there's, like, some DUIs and stuff like that, but no, like, domestic charges, nothing like that. Which is why I go back to, I think if something happened between them, it was heat of the moment.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like, was there a history of that? There's nothing, like, reported that I can find. In Matt's, like, criminal history, he doesn't have anything violent. I mean, there's, like, some DUIs and stuff like that, but no, like, domestic charges, nothing like that. Which is why I go back to, I think if something happened between them, it was heat of the moment.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But, like, it's hard for me to imagine it happening at Matt's. And then if not, it's hard for me to imagine how Matt gets her in the middle of that field. I mean, biggest question, does Matt have Tom McCann shoes? Yeah. No. So they didn't find any Tom McCann dress shoes. They did take note of like a pair of boots that were like propped up against his couch.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But, like, it's hard for me to imagine it happening at Matt's. And then if not, it's hard for me to imagine how Matt gets her in the middle of that field. I mean, biggest question, does Matt have Tom McCann shoes? Yeah. No. So they didn't find any Tom McCann dress shoes. They did take note of like a pair of boots that were like propped up against his couch.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But Don says those were the boots he was wearing the night Peggy died. They're not the prints that match anything in the field. And I get the sense that like those were his nice shoes. Like he didn't have a lot of... Not a dress shoe guy. Right. Right. And so maybe for all of those reasons, he didn't have Tom McCann's. He maybe had an alibi. He was acting how they expected him to act.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But Don says those were the boots he was wearing the night Peggy died. They're not the prints that match anything in the field. And I get the sense that like those were his nice shoes. Like he didn't have a lot of... Not a dress shoe guy. Right. Right. And so maybe for all of those reasons, he didn't have Tom McCann's. He maybe had an alibi. He was acting how they expected him to act.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Early on, people wrote him off, even though he, too, like Tim, failed a polygraph. And he failed the question, do you know who killed Peggy Hetrick? Like, the question. Yeah. But the polygrapher decided that he was probably telling the truth. And so that's Matt. Now, the other person we came across in the case file was a guy named Donnie Long.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Early on, people wrote him off, even though he, too, like Tim, failed a polygraph. And he failed the question, do you know who killed Peggy Hetrick? Like, the question. Yeah. But the polygrapher decided that he was probably telling the truth. And so that's Matt. Now, the other person we came across in the case file was a guy named Donnie Long.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

So the same year that Peggy was murdered, there were two more murders. 39-year-old Linda Holt was stabbed nine times, bound, gagged, tied to a tree. Now, like Peggy's case, there was no sexual assault. But unlike Peggy's case, there was no mutilation to Linda. Then a couple of months after her, 30-year-old Mana Hughes is murdered. She's stabbed 14 times. No sexual assault.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

So the same year that Peggy was murdered, there were two more murders. 39-year-old Linda Holt was stabbed nine times, bound, gagged, tied to a tree. Now, like Peggy's case, there was no sexual assault. But unlike Peggy's case, there was no mutilation to Linda. Then a couple of months after her, 30-year-old Mana Hughes is murdered. She's stabbed 14 times. No sexual assault.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Again, though, no mutilation. Now, pretty quickly, police kind of pull Peggy out of this, even though you've got three cases that happen within nine months of each other, within 30 miles, in an area that doesn't really see violent crime.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Again, though, no mutilation. Now, pretty quickly, police kind of pull Peggy out of this, even though you've got three cases that happen within nine months of each other, within 30 miles, in an area that doesn't really see violent crime.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

That's Deck Investigates Brain. I know, but, like, I think it's about the mutilation. I think that's the why, very early on, they were like, Peggy doesn't fit in this pattern. And they end up finding the guy responsible for Linda and Mana. They end up getting this Donnie Long guy. Donnie ends up confessing to Linda and Mana's murders.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

That's Deck Investigates Brain. I know, but, like, I think it's about the mutilation. I think that's the why, very early on, they were like, Peggy doesn't fit in this pattern. And they end up finding the guy responsible for Linda and Mana. They end up getting this Donnie Long guy. Donnie ends up confessing to Linda and Mana's murders.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Truly the bare minimum.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Truly the bare minimum.