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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But the reason I say we don't know the extent is because after all this is collected, everything from his home, from this storage unit, it is all taken and over the course of, like, eight hours, burned. Like, completely destroyed. Wow. And Jim Broderick, like some people were at least asking questions about this.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But the reason I say we don't know the extent is because after all this is collected, everything from his home, from this storage unit, it is all taken and over the course of, like, eight hours, burned. Like, completely destroyed. Wow. And Jim Broderick, like some people were at least asking questions about this.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And our guy Jim Broderick is back to give a quote to the Denver Post about why they destroyed all of this evidence in this case. And he said, quote, should we re-victimize all these women by telling them they are victims? So really, it's an effort to protect them, to preserve these victims' rights. Yeah.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And our guy Jim Broderick is back to give a quote to the Denver Post about why they destroyed all of this evidence in this case. And he said, quote, should we re-victimize all these women by telling them they are victims? So really, it's an effort to protect them, to preserve these victims' rights. Yeah.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

No, the math isn't mathing. And the thing I have the biggest problem with is this idea, the last line, to preserve these victims' rights. That's why we destroyed this. By destroying it. And not, like, with their permission or anything.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

No, the math isn't mathing. And the thing I have the biggest problem with is this idea, the last line, to preserve these victims' rights. That's why we destroyed this. By destroying it. And not, like, with their permission or anything.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Yeah, they didn't have it. They made the choice for them to preserve their rights. But by destroying it, what they did was actually take away any future right they might have for repercussions. They can no longer go after Hammond's estate. Were there other people on those tapes that they could go after?

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Yeah, they didn't have it. They made the choice for them to preserve their rights. But by destroying it, what they did was actually take away any future right they might have for repercussions. They can no longer go after Hammond's estate. Were there other people on those tapes that they could go after?

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

We'll never know because by the way, when they destroyed everything, they had not viewed most of it. Like they just took it all away without knowing what was on the majority of those tapes, which is bananas to me. And the whole way that these were destroyed, when they looked into this, this went against every policy and procedure they had in place about how to deal with evidence.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

We'll never know because by the way, when they destroyed everything, they had not viewed most of it. Like they just took it all away without knowing what was on the majority of those tapes, which is bananas to me. And the whole way that these were destroyed, when they looked into this, this went against every policy and procedure they had in place about how to deal with evidence.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

It just all goes up in smoke. Literally. Burned it. Yes. And listen. Jim Broderick would have you believe that they did this for a noble reason. And I do think there are people out there doing noble things for noble reasons. I haven't seen a whole lot of them. Love to meet more. Yes.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

It just all goes up in smoke. Literally. Burned it. Yes. And listen. Jim Broderick would have you believe that they did this for a noble reason. And I do think there are people out there doing noble things for noble reasons. I haven't seen a whole lot of them. Love to meet more. Yes.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But in the theme of always going a layer deeper, which is our new Crime Junkie Life rule, I like to ask not just what happened, but why do we think it happened? Well... Here's a fun fact. In the couple of days between when Hammond was arrested, but before he died, they were having to think about, like, taking this to a trial, like there could be a case around this.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But in the theme of always going a layer deeper, which is our new Crime Junkie Life rule, I like to ask not just what happened, but why do we think it happened? Well... Here's a fun fact. In the couple of days between when Hammond was arrested, but before he died, they were having to think about, like, taking this to a trial, like there could be a case around this.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And they were going to have to appoint a special prosecutor because they quickly found out that members of the DA's office, quote, had been guests at Hammond's home and may have been videotaped.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And they were going to have to appoint a special prosecutor because they quickly found out that members of the DA's office, quote, had been guests at Hammond's home and may have been videotaped.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But they are quick to write this off. Like, same way when Tim, right, when he gets exonerated, they're like, let's just make this go away. And when this happened, they wanted this to go away. So much so that they were even writing off stories that made no sense. Like, people were like, oh, he wouldn't have hurt Peggy because, like, he didn't even use a scalpel.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But they are quick to write this off. Like, same way when Tim, right, when he gets exonerated, they're like, let's just make this go away. And when this happened, they wanted this to go away. So much so that they were even writing off stories that made no sense. Like, people were like, oh, he wouldn't have hurt Peggy because, like, he didn't even use a scalpel.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Yes, he was a doctor in surgical precision, all that, but he didn't even use scalpels. But like a guy who he ran the practice with was like, yeah, we absolutely do. And there's an affidavit from a woman who's like, he literally used a scalpel on me.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Yes, he was a doctor in surgical precision, all that, but he didn't even use scalpels. But like a guy who he ran the practice with was like, yeah, we absolutely do. And there's an affidavit from a woman who's like, he literally used a scalpel on me.