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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

I don't know. Distribution? To go somewhere? Our reporting team tracked down one of Hammond's victims, and she filled in some blanks for us. And prepare to be disappointed yet again, because she told us that not only did police never ask their opinions on destroying the evidence, which we assumed...

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

I don't know. Distribution? To go somewhere? Our reporting team tracked down one of Hammond's victims, and she filled in some blanks for us. And prepare to be disappointed yet again, because she told us that not only did police never ask their opinions on destroying the evidence, which we assumed...

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But when detectives were interviewing the victims, they were asking these victims if they were in on it.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

But when detectives were interviewing the victims, they were asking these victims if they were in on it.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

The cops were asking these teenage girls if they were performing for the cameras. Like, did anyone tell you where to stand and what to do? And on top of that, she said that Fort Collins PD never once offered to let these teen girls have a parent or trusted adult in the room with them during their interviews. So it just feels like the victims have never once had a voice in that case.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

The cops were asking these teenage girls if they were performing for the cameras. Like, did anyone tell you where to stand and what to do? And on top of that, she said that Fort Collins PD never once offered to let these teen girls have a parent or trusted adult in the room with them during their interviews. So it just feels like the victims have never once had a voice in that case.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like every decision was made for them, even after the cops basically treated them like suspects. Oh, and remember how I told you, like we found out that like there was a file that said some of the DA's office had socialized at Hammond's, might be on the tapes, whatever. Well, when we finally got to track down Judge Terry Gilmore, that was obviously one of the things we asked him specifically about.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like every decision was made for them, even after the cops basically treated them like suspects. Oh, and remember how I told you, like we found out that like there was a file that said some of the DA's office had socialized at Hammond's, might be on the tapes, whatever. Well, when we finally got to track down Judge Terry Gilmore, that was obviously one of the things we asked him specifically about.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

We weren't able to talk to anyone else. And he confirmed that the destruction of the tapes did go against regular policy. And he admitted to knowing Dr. Hammond personally before his arrest. But he says that he only socialized with him one time and that he was never at the doctor's home. And that's kind of where that ended. Okay.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

We weren't able to talk to anyone else. And he confirmed that the destruction of the tapes did go against regular policy. And he admitted to knowing Dr. Hammond personally before his arrest. But he says that he only socialized with him one time and that he was never at the doctor's home. And that's kind of where that ended. Okay.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And then there's one more thing that I want to mention before we wrap things up on Hammond. So we got a hold of a woman who in 1988-ish went to the eye clinic where Hammond worked for an emergency. Like her son got like a sandy snowball lodged in his eye or whatever. Now, Hammond is not the regular doctor, but he was the one on call that weekend. So they're alone in the eye clinic with him.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And then there's one more thing that I want to mention before we wrap things up on Hammond. So we got a hold of a woman who in 1988-ish went to the eye clinic where Hammond worked for an emergency. Like her son got like a sandy snowball lodged in his eye or whatever. Now, Hammond is not the regular doctor, but he was the one on call that weekend. So they're alone in the eye clinic with him.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And Dr. Hammond was treating the boy. He's like 9 or 10. And his mom had to use the restroom. So she went to the closest one that she could find, which was the men's stall. But Dr. Hammond came and like physically blocked her from using the men's restroom. And he insisted that she had to use the women's restroom. And she's like, okay, like whatever, dude.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And Dr. Hammond was treating the boy. He's like 9 or 10. And his mom had to use the restroom. So she went to the closest one that she could find, which was the men's stall. But Dr. Hammond came and like physically blocked her from using the men's restroom. And he insisted that she had to use the women's restroom. And she's like, okay, like whatever, dude.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And when she got inside and flipped the light switch on, she heard this like whirring noise.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And when she got inside and flipped the light switch on, she heard this like whirring noise.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And what they ended up determining at his house is like it's the light switch. So when you turn it on, that triggered it to start recording. So he didn't even have to be there. And she's hearing this at his office. Now, she says in the moment, she was certain it was a camera. Not even like years later, but in that moment.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

And what they ended up determining at his house is like it's the light switch. So when you turn it on, that triggered it to start recording. So he didn't even have to be there. And she's hearing this at his office. Now, she says in the moment, she was certain it was a camera. Not even like years later, but in that moment.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like specifically one of those big cameras from the 80s that had that distinct sound when it turned on, specifically when it focused. And she even flipped the light switch off because she was like so freaked out. She was like looking for a red light or any sign that she was being recorded. Wait, did police find cameras at his practice? I mean, did they even search it? So it depends on who you ask.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 2

Like specifically one of those big cameras from the 80s that had that distinct sound when it turned on, specifically when it focused. And she even flipped the light switch off because she was like so freaked out. She was like looking for a red light or any sign that she was being recorded. Wait, did police find cameras at his practice? I mean, did they even search it? So it depends on who you ask.