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Ashley Flowers

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Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Yeah, the people who put you there. Now, luckily, there's been enough like sus stuff happening that Fort Collins PD has recused themselves. Larimer County, which is the DA's office, has recused themselves. So there is a new DA that they're going to have to appeal to, a guy named Don Quick. And they're hoping like this guy has no dog in the fight other than just wanting justice.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Yeah, the people who put you there. Now, luckily, there's been enough like sus stuff happening that Fort Collins PD has recused themselves. Larimer County, which is the DA's office, has recused themselves. So there is a new DA that they're going to have to appeal to, a guy named Don Quick. And they're hoping like this guy has no dog in the fight other than just wanting justice.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So Selma and Richard come to the U.S. They do this like four hour presentation in front of Don Quick. And by the end of it, Don's like, yes, I love you. Love the lab. Love what you're doing. Like, go justice. But then guess what happens next? That DNA evidence they were going to send off gets destroyed.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So Selma and Richard come to the U.S. They do this like four hour presentation in front of Don Quick. And by the end of it, Don's like, yes, I love you. Love the lab. Love what you're doing. Like, go justice. But then guess what happens next? That DNA evidence they were going to send off gets destroyed.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Which is like they were already, Tim and his team were already suspicious that something sus was going on. And now they're more sure of it than ever. Yeah. So they do end up finding some stuff that they can send off. At some point, they had gone back to Tom and gotten the stuff that they gave back to him. The stuff, the evidence? They're like, you shouldn't have this. He's like, I know.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Which is like they were already, Tim and his team were already suspicious that something sus was going on. And now they're more sure of it than ever. Yeah. So they do end up finding some stuff that they can send off. At some point, they had gone back to Tom and gotten the stuff that they gave back to him. The stuff, the evidence? They're like, you shouldn't have this. He's like, I know.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they like at least collect that. Thank God he saved it. And they end up sending some stuff off for testing. And at the same time, because they're convinced something like very fishy is going on, his lawyers make a request for a new trial based on the accusation that Tim's rights were violated. And they make four important points in this filing.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

So they like at least collect that. Thank God he saved it. And they end up sending some stuff off for testing. And at the same time, because they're convinced something like very fishy is going on, his lawyers make a request for a new trial based on the accusation that Tim's rights were violated. And they make four important points in this filing.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Number one, they say crucial evidence was withheld from Tim's defense team. And they point to two things. They say specifically the prints. And I think they're talking about the shoe prints in the field, the Tom McCann ones by the pool of blood on the curb. Apparently, they never knew, like his defense team never knew that those existed.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

Number one, they say crucial evidence was withheld from Tim's defense team. And they point to two things. They say specifically the prints. And I think they're talking about the shoe prints in the field, the Tom McCann ones by the pool of blood on the curb. Apparently, they never knew, like his defense team never knew that those existed.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The second thing that they didn't know existed was that first FBI profile that the police had done that said, Tim is not your guy. Didn't know that that was a thing that kind of just went away, which would have been really helpful in a trial. Their second point in this filing was the whole DNA destruction thing. There's that. There's that.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The second thing that they didn't know existed was that first FBI profile that the police had done that said, Tim is not your guy. Didn't know that that was a thing that kind of just went away, which would have been really helpful in a trial. Their second point in this filing was the whole DNA destruction thing. There's that. There's that.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And then the third is apparently there was like a mishandling of some skin cell DNA that they had. So some evidence that they had, but, you know, not only destroying things, then you're mishandling things like so much is useless. The fourth is that they ignored.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And then the third is apparently there was like a mishandling of some skin cell DNA that they had. So some evidence that they had, but, you know, not only destroying things, then you're mishandling things like so much is useless. The fourth is that they ignored.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

viable suspects other viable suspects who were not Tim because make no mistake they did not just pick Tim out of a void there were other people that looked a lot more promising than Tim that his defense team never knew about and I'm going to be getting into those people in a moment But those are their four points.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

viable suspects other viable suspects who were not Tim because make no mistake they did not just pick Tim out of a void there were other people that looked a lot more promising than Tim that his defense team never knew about and I'm going to be getting into those people in a moment But those are their four points.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And as they're uncovering all this and filing this, I mean, they found out other things as well. Like the police were basically waging psychological warfare on this kid. So remember how I told you that in the first month of the investigation, you know, the newspaper showing up every day. It's like we've got our guy. We're honing in. Turns out that was not real.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

And as they're uncovering all this and filing this, I mean, they found out other things as well. Like the police were basically waging psychological warfare on this kid. So remember how I told you that in the first month of the investigation, you know, the newspaper showing up every day. It's like we've got our guy. We're honing in. Turns out that was not real.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The Fort Collins police was making a fake front page of the newspaper, just one, putting it on the newspaper and delivering that newspaper to Tim's house.

Crime Junkie
MURDERED: Peggy Hettrick Part 1

The Fort Collins police was making a fake front page of the newspaper, just one, putting it on the newspaper and delivering that newspaper to Tim's house.