Ashley Parker

Stephen is going to go out there and do it.

Well, again, it's a combination of both, right?

For starters, Stephen Miller would not be able to work for someone with whom he was not broadly aligned because one of the things that people told us that they really like about Stephen Miller in the administration, and this might seem a little counterintuitive, is that he's a zealot.

They said, we always know...

where he stands.

That said, in some instances, he is more hardline, especially on immigration, than President Trump is.

And in those instances, again, he very intensely and very forcefully makes his case in private.

And so I do think there is some shaping of the president there, just because we know President Trump is

often persuaded by the last person he talked to or by people he talks to frequently.

But again, at the end of the day, there have been some disagreements between the two of them.

And when there are those disagreements, Stephen Miller does go out and do what the president wants, regardless of his personal views.

But there's not that much daylight between them.

I mean, he was still incredibly powerful in the first Trump term.

The difference was the same guardrails that kind of constrained President Trump in that first term also constrained Stephen Miller.

There were people at the Department of Homeland Security who, when he did something that

they felt was too extreme or was morally reprehensible, would not follow through on his directive.

And they knew that at the time when John Kelly was leading that agency, he would protect them.

All of those guardrails and all of those people are gone now.

And the second thing is, much like this

more emboldened, unfettered, unchained President Trump we're seeing now, Stephen Miller underwent the same process.