Ashlyn Harris

The word that my meditation teacher, Joseph Goldstein, uses most frequently is ridiculous.

We're ridiculous. And it's just, it's so healthy to see that and laugh at it.

We're ridiculous. And it's just, it's so healthy to see that and laugh at it.

To pick up on the instant part of it, you know, it kind of takes me back to the first question you asked around stress. And we talked about some of the contributors. I think one of the contributors is that we live in a world that doesn't have enough friction, that we've created a world for young people.

To pick up on the instant part of it, you know, it kind of takes me back to the first question you asked around stress. And we talked about some of the contributors. I think one of the contributors is that we live in a world that doesn't have enough friction, that we've created a world for young people.

And to me, you're a young person, but because I'm in my 50s and you're in your 30s, but I have a nine-year-old who's a much younger person. And we You know, there's a way that older people can blame younger people for their this generation or kids today or whatever. But this is a world we've created for them where there isn't a lot of friction. You can get everything you want on demand.

And to me, you're a young person, but because I'm in my 50s and you're in your 30s, but I have a nine-year-old who's a much younger person. And we You know, there's a way that older people can blame younger people for their this generation or kids today or whatever. But this is a world we've created for them where there isn't a lot of friction. You can get everything you want on demand.

And as a consequence, people are intolerant of discomfort. And that is creating a lot of anxiety because life is uncomfortable. And there are going to be stressful and scary situations. And your ability to thrive is going to be directly correlated to your ability to handle this. And if we don't Get comfortable with discomfort. We're going to suffer. And there are ways to work with this.

And as a consequence, people are intolerant of discomfort. And that is creating a lot of anxiety because life is uncomfortable. And there are going to be stressful and scary situations. And your ability to thrive is going to be directly correlated to your ability to handle this. And if we don't Get comfortable with discomfort. We're going to suffer. And there are ways to work with this.

One of them is this thing that it's a psychological term, opposite action. You know, when you I'll give you an example. I have intense claustrophobia. And when your colleague Jordan came to pick me up in the lobby of the hotel in which we're doing this interview and take me up the elevator, I said, I have to ride alone. because I didn't want to have a panic attack in front of her.

One of them is this thing that it's a psychological term, opposite action. You know, when you I'll give you an example. I have intense claustrophobia. And when your colleague Jordan came to pick me up in the lobby of the hotel in which we're doing this interview and take me up the elevator, I said, I have to ride alone. because I didn't want to have a panic attack in front of her.

But I got on the elevator. I didn't want to. I thought about walking 30 flights. And I've done that before.

But I got on the elevator. I didn't want to. I thought about walking 30 flights. And I've done that before.

How did you set this up, dude? What are you doing to me? No, I... But the lesson here is that I need to get on elevators regularly. That's the way out of this. It's opposite action. I need to do the thing I'm scared of. Carefully, I don't want to give myself a panic attack, although there are some people who argue that that is a way through this.

How did you set this up, dude? What are you doing to me? No, I... But the lesson here is that I need to get on elevators regularly. That's the way out of this. It's opposite action. I need to do the thing I'm scared of. Carefully, I don't want to give myself a panic attack, although there are some people who argue that that is a way through this.

But for me, I just kind of gently expose myself to the stuff I'm afraid of. And so I actually look – I relish the opportunity to get on an elevator or to take a subway ride. I just have to do it in the right circumstances. So – I didn't inflict it upon Jordan. I just took a different elevator.

But for me, I just kind of gently expose myself to the stuff I'm afraid of. And so I actually look – I relish the opportunity to get on an elevator or to take a subway ride. I just have to do it in the right circumstances. So – I didn't inflict it upon Jordan. I just took a different elevator.

And I actually think this is one of the ways out, one of the ways out of the epidemic of stress and anxiety that we began this conversation with, which is to, in whatever way in your own life, to just dose yourself carefully and gently with some discomfort, to take the opposite action, do the opposite of what

And I actually think this is one of the ways out, one of the ways out of the epidemic of stress and anxiety that we began this conversation with, which is to, in whatever way in your own life, to just dose yourself carefully and gently with some discomfort, to take the opposite action, do the opposite of what

You want to do, which may be to, you know, hide from the discomfort, go to that party, accept the invitation, ask that person out for a cup of coffee, press like on that Instagram post, you know, little steps like that will will equip you and arm you to move through a world that is largely out of your control.