Ashton Forbes

They're the ones who would run an operation on a civilian airliner.

It wouldn't be the military, but they have access to military technology.

The other thing he says, which reminds me a lot of Mike Herrera's story.

I don't know if you've talked to him or if you're familiar with him, but I just spoke to him on my podcast.

And contrary to a lot of other people, I find his story to be quite credible.

And what he told me was that essentially he went to Indonesia during... It was a humanitarian mission where there was, I think, a tsunami or earthquake or something that had just occurred.

Tsunami, yeah.

Tsunami, right?

And he was clearing a zone, the LZ for the region, and they were trying to clear an unsafe area.

And they go there and they get confronted by other black operations military people that are American in Indonesia.

And they've got some kind of weird craft that looks anti-gravity craft to them.

And they basically get zip-tied, told, don't talk about this, threatened, etc.

And what he told me was that after talking to, I don't know if it was David Grush, but some of those UFO people that are on the TV and what have you, that he believes they were kidnapping people.

They were abducting people from the zone.

And that's actually what was just said by Matt Gaetz there.

He said that they take people from war zones or what have you,

And then they forced them to breed.

Now, he didn't say anything about forcing them to breed with aliens, but he said that they were doing it because they have some psionic potential that is related to extraterrestrial life.

So I'm not saying I believe it.

I'm just saying that there is kind of a cohesive story.