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Ashton Forbes | Orbs, Fusion Technology, & the Missing General

09 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the MH370 videos?

0.031 - 20.96 Ashton Forbes

I want to explain to the world what it is that we are hiding that is under the guise of this UFO technology. They have fusion technology. They have fusion propulsion drones flying around. And those fusion propulsion drones represent unlimited green energy for the world. At first, I was like, the missing general? This is weird.

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21.121 - 43.246 Ashton Forbes

And then the first thing you do is start digging into who was this guy. He was the commander of the Air Force Research Labs from 2011 to 2013. You've now got Ross Colhart, Tim Berchett, and Eric Burleson all saying that this guy was connected to this UFO topic. So if there's anybody in this whole world that's gonna know about orbs, advanced technology, that's the guy right there.

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44.048 - 46.474 Ashton Forbes

If this is the General, this is why he disappeared.

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55.752 - 75.786 Matt Beall

Welcome back. Thank you. Yeah, for sure. It's been a little while. Yeah, it's been like, what, a year or so? I think so, yeah. We had a good conversation. It was amazing. It was one of my best favorite episodes. And I think if people haven't watched that, they probably want to go back and watch it. But what have you been up to between then and now? What's been going on?

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76.087 - 98.938 Ashton Forbes

Well, I've been still researching the science, physics, trying to understand exactly what's going on in the MH370 videos. I think last time we spoke, I was pretty confident that this was some kind of covert operation that was being done on MH370. But now at this point, I think I have a really good idea of the overall story, the assets that were being used, who's responsible.

98.918 - 118.982 Ashton Forbes

Maybe not necessarily exactly why they did it, but the exact technology that we see in the MH370 videos. What are these orbs that are flying around the plane? And how are they, if I'm right and they are doing a wormhole or a teleportation to it, how is that possible? How can you even do that? So that's what my focus has been on.

119.022 - 129.1 Ashton Forbes

And that's why I'm glad to be back on your show, because I want to explain to the world why. what it is that we are hiding that is under this guise of this UFO technology.

129.741 - 140.164 Matt Beall

Okay, fantastic, yeah. And so many more orbs have been cited, I mean, since this video. The video with the plane and the orbs came out in 2014?

140.144 - 164.278 Ashton Forbes

Yeah, the videos emerged in 2014, but they didn't get any attention until 2023. So we went nine years while ignoring those videos. And in that period of time, orbs have become in the zeitgeist, especially in the UFOlogy, to the degree now that even since we last spoke, multiple videos have been getting released that show the same exact phenomenon that we are seeing in the MH370 videos.

Chapter 2: What advanced technologies are linked to the MH370 incident?

364.908 - 385.043 Ashton Forbes

Did we get help? And to answer that question, I don't know. I would say I would leave that for everyone else to decide. I'm interested in it. But ultimately, to me, at the end of the day, the most important thing is they have fusion technology. They have fusion propulsion drones flying around. And those fusion propulsion drones represent unlimited green energy for the world.

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385.724 - 406.535 Ashton Forbes

Like, no question, it really is about free energy. And teleportation is also cool, but... The secret to teleportation to a wormhole is that that also represents free energy. Because if I can move an object from here to here, that object represents mass energy. So even if it's a solid object, in theory there's a bunch of energy tied up in that.

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407.256 - 428.541 Ashton Forbes

So if you're moving that energy from one place to another, and it doesn't cost that much energy to move it, that's free energy too, in a sense. So the story of the UFO topic, the story of MH370 to me is free energy. It's what is the power source of your flying saucer, of your balls of energy that are flying around in the sky.

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429.77 - 449.015 Matt Beall

Yeah, I love it. Love it. Okay. So then why don't we start off? What's a good place to start off then in terms of kind of catching up from where we left off the last time? I think the last time that we did a full podcast episode on MH370. And of course, like I mentioned, it was one of my favorite episodes. It's the reason why there's a plane sitting up on my podcast studio right now.

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449.035 - 469.969 Matt Beall

I thought it was absolutely fascinating. And- But I think that since then, a year or even more than that ago, I think since our first episode's been released, you've had some additional findings and understandings to add to your theory. So maybe we start there with just kind of talking about that. I know there's a lot more to talk about today than just MH370, but maybe we kick it off there.

470.371 - 474.298 Ashton Forbes

Yeah, so the first thing I would say is let's talk about what happened to MH370.

Chapter 3: How do orbs relate to advanced propulsion technology?

474.418 - 493.571 Ashton Forbes

So MH370 was a CIA operation. It had to have been planned months in advance. It wasn't the type of thing that you just do at will, ad hoc. So they would have planned it out months in advance. The people that would have been involved would have been Obama directly. The CIA actually only presents options up to the president. And then the president has to choose what the policy is going to be.

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494.232 - 509.98 Ashton Forbes

So the president would have been minimum been tangentially aware. People like John Brennan, James Clapper, they would have been aware as well. I know the CIA director of clandestine operations at the time was Frank Archibald. He's now dead, but he absolutely would have been in charge of that operation.

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509.96 - 534.984 Ashton Forbes

Glenn Gaffney, he retired right before this, but he was essentially the Q of the James Bond Q of the CIA, the director of the Science and Technology Directorate of the CIA. And they're the ones that acquire the technologies. You may have heard of something called In-Q-Tel, which is a CIA venture fund. Basically, they invest in breakthrough technologies they think are going to be beneficial.

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535.744 - 555.812 Ashton Forbes

So these would have been people responsible. Like I said, there are two MQ-9 Reaper drones recording MH370. There's one vertical to the plane that we can see in this color FLIR video that's up close. And then there is a MQ-9 above it as well. MQ-9 above it is actually taking photos using something called Gorgon Stare.

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555.792 - 575.991 Ashton Forbes

And that then beams through a satellite, NROL 22, which is what we see in the bottom left corner, beams through the satellite, and this goes to ground-based systems, stations. In fact, this is actually perfect for a CIA operation, because what they do is they relay the video feed or the feed through the satellite to wherever the location is they're running the operation directly.

576.792 - 594.557 Ashton Forbes

So that way there's not as many places where the information could be seen by somebody that's not meant to see it. In terms of how the footage got released, Edward C. Lynn is the guy that leaked that footage. I'm sure of it. His lawyer won't talk to me. I think we spoke about all the case around him in general.

594.958 - 614.855 Ashton Forbes

I spoke to somebody at the VPU2 Wizards that worked in his department, in his group, told me he would have had access to that footage. They can't tell me about how the surveillance stuff works, but my context that I was able to piece together is that the people in those VPU2 wizards, they're sitting in front of computer screens, and they're monitoring the planet.

614.875 - 628.729 Ashton Forbes

And so you have a region that you're monitoring, and you're monitoring that region. And you have footage and feeds, and your feeds, theoretically, you might see a CIA feed come through onto a network that you have access to it, and you could see that.

629.198 - 653.839 Ashton Forbes

So either he was on an operation on a mission where he saw that footage, or he was randomly doing his job and he saw that footage and came across it and did what he shouldn't have done, which is put it on a flash drive and got it out of there illegally, which is why he ended up going to prison. In terms of why we did that, it was an operation against China. So...

Chapter 4: What theories exist about the missing General McCasland?

1793.461 - 1798.248 Matt Beall

Or what's the physical structure like of the stuff that's flying around?

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1798.268 - 1821.301 Ashton Forbes

That's a good question. And you had Bob Greenyer on recently. Shout out to Bob Greenyer. Bob's a man. Yeah. He's a friend of the show, a friend of my show as well. Yep. he would say that there's nothing inside of them. He would probably say that it's a wholly geometric plasma shape that is self-organizing, self-perpetuating. And I would slightly disagree.

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1821.321 - 1848.387 Ashton Forbes

I think there is something in there, but I think that that idea is still mostly true, is that if you look at the most common popular fusion reactors right now, The most popular one is a tokamak, and tokamaks are completely junk physics, junk fusion, if it comes to that. The guy that invented the tokamak said that, actually. He said that Robert Boussard went to a Google TED Talk, and he said...

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1848.907 - 1872.338 Ashton Forbes

One of the top theorists in nuclear physics who helped develop the tokamak said, the only thing we learned about tokamaks is they're no damn good. No damn good at all. And the reason why they're no damn good is because of something called beta. Beta is a measure of the efficiency of the use of the magnetic field. So we take a magnet and we're trying to make a fusion reactor out of the magnet.

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1872.779 - 1881.782 Ashton Forbes

The beta is how much of the magnetic field we're using. So for tokamaks, it's about 10%. So of all that magnetic field we're using, we're only really using about 10% of it.

1883.45 - 1902.356 Ashton Forbes

For plasmoid research, which is the heart of field reverse configuration, if you look up helium fusion, tri-alpha energy, a lot of the prominent fusion companies, including the one that Donald Trump just purchased, tri-alpha energy, they do something called field reverse configuration, which uses a plasmoid at the center of it.

1902.876 - 1931.549 Ashton Forbes

This is what Bob Greener talks about all the time, which is a natural instability in plasma that knots itself up and becomes stable. So like a shape that is unstable that becomes stable and leads to stability and confinement far higher than physics can explain. So these plasmoids have a high beta regime. Their beta is roughly 100%.

1932.71 - 1946.01 Ashton Forbes

This means that using the exact same magnets that the tokamaks use, if you use a different configuration, a field reverse configuration, they're roughly 10 times more efficient using the same exact magnets.

1946.03 - 1971.152 Ashton Forbes

So even if I were to take one of these brand new Rebco superconducting magnets that can achieve 30 Tesla, I'm gonna get 10 times more out of that magnet using field reverse configuration than I would at Tokamak. So this is why we're trying to, I think the smart people are moving away from these Tokamak hot fusion designs and moving towards that. So now why is this relevant for the orbs?

Chapter 5: What insights does Ashton Forbes provide about fusion reactors?

3911.182 - 3925.817 Ashton Forbes

Now I look at it, I know right away they're building either a fusion reactor or what those orbs are in those videos. And no random person could just draw... There it is. Look at this. Ion pumpy thing for Ashton. Literally calling me out.

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Chapter 6: How do plasma orbs relate to advanced technology?

3925.797 - 3949.999 Ashton Forbes

closed cycle plasma amplifier dynamic plasma alternator no this is the craziest and if you even look at the image right there where the pink is where that tube is that's what the z pinch reactors look like the z pinch reactors have a cylinder tube inside them where it all collapses down just like this image Wow. At the time, I had no idea what I was looking at.

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3950.019 - 3972.217 Ashton Forbes

I thought this guy might be a schizo. Now I'm looking at this, and there's spelling mistakes in here because it's all hand-drawn. It's not done by a computer or anything. Wow. Look, Ashton Free Energy. Look at the bottom right. Ashton Free Energy. Open source, whatever it says. Anti-gravity, I think it says. Yep. I mean, this is crazy, man. This could actually be part of the reason.

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3972.377 - 3985.89 Ashton Forbes

If this is the general or someone is connected, this is why he disappeared. This is why he's gone. This is why he's gone. Wow. Can you pull up the other one, the nuclear weapon thing? Bro. I mean, bro. I saw this and I'm like, am I in the middle of the craziest thing ever right now?

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3986.05 - 3990.737 Matt Beall

You might be. Ryan, this is legit from that guy's page? Because you can imagine 100%.

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3990.837 - 3994.622 Ashton Forbes

This is not from the general, but from the TMB spaceships. Let's disconnect them from that.

3994.642 - 3997.166 Matt Beall

It's the same dude. I mean, it's the same dude.

3997.466 - 4009.499 Ashton Forbes

It has to be either him or someone connected to him. I mean, look at how detailed this is. I mean, the New York... And look at when he posted this, 2024. So this was right after he started following me. Wow. Right after he started following me. Wow.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of government secrecy regarding advanced physics?

4009.94 - 4012.302 Matt Beall

That was over a year ago. So he's like, this guy gets it. He's like, Ashton gets it.

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4012.322 - 4028.577 Ashton Forbes

Yeah, and you have to wonder, if I'm out here revealing this stuff that nobody really accepts or knows to be real, you imagine you're one of the people that does know it's real. Right. This is exactly what you would do, right? Jeez, bro. You would be like, hey, I got to reach out to the guy that's revealing this because nobody else is even close. Dude. He's like, yep, it's fusion reactors.

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4028.617 - 4031.32 Ashton Forbes

You got it. You nailed it. That's what's going on.

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4031.38 - 4033.982 Matt Beall

Oh, my God. Have you talked about this yet?

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4034.523 - 4050.279 Ashton Forbes

This is the first time I've talked about this, other than on my live streams. This is the biggest thing I think I've ever talked about on the show. It's absolutely insane. This is freaking huge. I might be in the middle of a huge disclosure thing happening. That's why I'm saying I'm just watching this play out now. I know I'm right about those orbs.

4050.439 - 4058.927 Ashton Forbes

I know those are fusion reactors, and I just don't know what's going to happen here. People are disappearing. People are in my replies posting crazy stuff like this.

4058.907 - 4062.615 Matt Beall

This is either your ex-account or it's the general ex-account.

4062.876 - 4065.923 Ashton Forbes

I wouldn't even blame people for thinking that it's me at this point. Period.

4066.023 - 4066.344 Matt Beall

That's it.

Chapter 8: What future technologies are discussed towards the end of the episode?

4094.375 - 4097.74 Matt Beall

I'm being sarcastic and talking, you know, but I mean...

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4097.72 - 4110.908 Ashton Forbes

If people think I could have made that, then, I mean, you guys give me way, way too much credit. Honestly, man, I'm a healthcare IT guy. I'm barely struggling to figure this all out here over several years. I didn't know what I was looking at when he posted this two years ago. This was November 2024. I had no idea.

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4111.049 - 4115.117 Unknown

Oh, my God. Ashton, if you disappear, we'll put your picture up on the wall mural.

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4115.438 - 4131.203 Ashton Forbes

Please do. Just don't give it to Candace Owens. I don't want any more crazy conspiracy. Just let the CIA disappear me, guys. Honestly, at this point, they might be doing me a favor at this point by disappearing me. I don't even know anymore. So the other thing that he posted, though, was he posted about nuclear weapons.

4131.284 - 4133.447 Matt Beall

So the handwriting on that thing.

4133.697 - 4145.633 Ashton Forbes

we need to get, where's his wife? That dude's wife must be able to recognize his handwriting, right? Like I also pointed that out. Like this handwriting is all over that. There's spelling mistakes. Like someone has got to be able to connect this to a real human being.

4145.713 - 4149.719 Matt Beall

Totally. Why don't we send this to his wife and be like, is this your husband's handwriting?

4149.919 - 4161.515 Ashton Forbes

I've literally sat up in my bed multiple nights. Should I go find his wife and like talk to him? Because if this is, she'll know one way or another. So we'll either be able to confirm it's him or rule out one way or another.

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