Astead Herndon

Is moderation coming?

Or is it just a matter of like,

you know, fingers crossed.

Senator Murphy, thank you for coming.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

I'm Ested Herndon, and you'll find me here every Saturday morning.

Next week, we're excited to bring you the first episode of our new podcast, America Actually, where we'll be asking the question, what is the U.S.

beyond Donald Trump?

He's been defining our politics for more than a decade, but we get a clean slate in 2028.

So who do we want to be?

I'll be talking to people across the country every week to figure that out.

You can also watch this week and every week on the Vox YouTube channel.

So for 20 years, there's basically been one guy who was always known as the Iran war guy in Republican politics.

For years, even decades, Ambassador John Bolton has argued that America needs to push for regime change in Iran and take an active military role in making it happen.

But now that Trump is doing just that, Ambassador Bolton says he's actually going about it all wrong and making a big mistake.

So how did Trump lose the Republican Party's biggest Iran war hawk?

Let's find out.

Ambassador Bolton, thank you so much for joining us.

Glad to be here.