Astead Herndon

How should we take this time different?

Are there more concrete steps that the White House is taking?

Is the threat of military action seemingly more imminent?

Well, why is this more real, is it?

You know, the European Union commissioner has said that if the U.S.

were to invade Greenland, it would be the end of NATO.

Do we believe that?

Yeah, yeah.

You know, it was reported that Secretary of State Marco Rubio has been tasked with creating a proposal for buying Greenland with the price tag of around $700 billion.

We have also seen the White House kind of use this as a possibility for future actions.

Would there be the same reaction to the U.S.

buying Greenland from the Kingdom of Denmark rather than the more dramatic step of military action, which does seem to be a red line?

Where do we think this goes next?

What do we expect?

And is it kind of just wait and see on Donald Trump?

It is wait and see.

Yeah, it's in him.

It's emotional.

John Hindley is the Europe correspondent for The Guardian.

Today's show was produced by Dustin DeSoto and Hadi Mawaddi, edited by Amina Alsadi, fact-checked by Andrea Lupez-Cruzado and Ariana Aspadu, and engineered by Patrick Boyd and David Tatasciore.