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as we send them off into open water uh i i think i i would love to hear a better approach or answer the only thing i can think of is stuff similar like the chips act right like you have to subsidize and like basically invest and spend a bunch of money to make making a ship in the u.s cheap enough to make it competitive that's the only thing you can do and then from what i know Yeah.

as we send them off into open water uh i i think i i would love to hear a better approach or answer the only thing i can think of is stuff similar like the chips act right like you have to subsidize and like basically invest and spend a bunch of money to make making a ship in the u.s cheap enough to make it competitive that's the only thing you can do and then from what i know Yeah.

as we send them off into open water uh i i think i i would love to hear a better approach or answer the only thing i can think of is stuff similar like the chips act right like you have to subsidize and like basically invest and spend a bunch of money to make making a ship in the u.s cheap enough to make it competitive that's the only thing you can do and then from what i know Yeah.

Taxing these three states to give the money to small, dying shipping companies. Right. It is ridiculously expensive. Which are price gouging. Yeah. When you put it that way, it's kind of amazing.

Taxing these three states to give the money to small, dying shipping companies. Right. It is ridiculously expensive. Which are price gouging. Yeah. When you put it that way, it's kind of amazing.

Taxing these three states to give the money to small, dying shipping companies. Right. It is ridiculously expensive. Which are price gouging. Yeah. When you put it that way, it's kind of amazing.

There's a funny story about Hawaiian farmers choosing to air in cows to the mainland instead of using boats because of this law.

There's a funny story about Hawaiian farmers choosing to air in cows to the mainland instead of using boats because of this law.

There's a funny story about Hawaiian farmers choosing to air in cows to the mainland instead of using boats because of this law.

It's like There's a bunch of scrutiny of the quality of work conditions on boats and the low wages you get to pay these people from the Philippines and India that often staff these boats. It's not like the other side is filled with filled with good. It's just that there's a bunch of people in the U.S., particularly in those places, that suffer because of this decision.

It's like There's a bunch of scrutiny of the quality of work conditions on boats and the low wages you get to pay these people from the Philippines and India that often staff these boats. It's not like the other side is filled with filled with good. It's just that there's a bunch of people in the U.S., particularly in those places, that suffer because of this decision.

It's like There's a bunch of scrutiny of the quality of work conditions on boats and the low wages you get to pay these people from the Philippines and India that often staff these boats. It's not like the other side is filled with filled with good. It's just that there's a bunch of people in the U.S., particularly in those places, that suffer because of this decision.

And the only people that benefit are the people who have the monopolies on the remaining shipping left and the people who have jobs at those shipping companies. And at the individual level, I'm sure they would like to keep their jobs. It's kind of, um, we didn't talk about this on an episode, but we did talk about this together.

And the only people that benefit are the people who have the monopolies on the remaining shipping left and the people who have jobs at those shipping companies. And at the individual level, I'm sure they would like to keep their jobs. It's kind of, um, we didn't talk about this on an episode, but we did talk about this together.

And the only people that benefit are the people who have the monopolies on the remaining shipping left and the people who have jobs at those shipping companies. And at the individual level, I'm sure they would like to keep their jobs. It's kind of, um, we didn't talk about this on an episode, but we did talk about this together.

Was the, like the efficiency of ports in the U S versus like the efficiency.

Was the, like the efficiency of ports in the U S versus like the efficiency.

Was the, like the efficiency of ports in the U S versus like the efficiency.

That was our first conversations. We were like thinking about this, doing this podcast.

That was our first conversations. We were like thinking about this, doing this podcast.