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Aurelia Song

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
206 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

Independent Evaluation by the SFF.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

About this time, I was chatting with Andrew Critch, co-founder of the Survival and Flourishing Fund, SFF.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

Born from Jan Tallinn's philanthropic efforts, the SFF is dedicated to the long-term survival and flourishing of sentient life.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

They recommended $34 million of grants in 2025, including support for the AI Futures Project, Lightcone Infrastructure, and MIRI, among many others.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

Andrew was interested in evaluating Nectum for an SFF grant.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

We talked it over and agreed on a third-party evaluation with real stakes.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

He'd travel to our lab in Vancouver, Washington to witness and evaluate a preservation firsthand, then bring the samples himself to an EM lab to scan them, and then ask a neuroscientist of his choice to review the sample quality.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

If he liked what he saw, he'd support our application to SFF's grants team.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

If we didn't live up to the quality we promised, he'd inform the team accordingly.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

SFF uses a distributed grant-making process where each team member has a separate budget for making grant recommendations with substantial discretion.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

When Andrew arrived at our lab, we introduced him to our test rat, 5, and he observed as I gave the test rat an injection of heparin, our blood thinner of choice, followed promptly by simulated medical aid in dying.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

He then timed us as I waited 5 minutes after the rat's heart stopped, mimicking the time I would have spent performing surgery on a pig or a human, 6.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

From there, we proceeded with the tedious 9-hour process.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

blood washout fixation and the slow ramp of cryoprotectants andrew watched from start to finish it was late at night before the preservation was complete and andrew watched us remove the rat's brain and perform a visual check for gross failures of perfusion there were none at this point we could have simply placed the brain in cold storage and then handed off the tissue for further evaluation but i wanted to demonstrate just how robust our current method is instead

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

I cut the brain into two hemispheres, put one in cold storage at minus 32 degrees Celsius minus 26 degrees Fahrenheit as a demonstration of the effectiveness of the cryoprotectant at preventing ice formation, and put the other hemisphere in a laboratory oven at 60 degrees Celsius 140 degrees Fahrenheit overnight.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

Just as cold storage slows chemical processes, warmth accelerates them.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Nullius in Verba" by Aurelia

12 hours at 60 degrees Celsius is equivalent to, conservatively, a week at room temperature.