Austin Kleon

not generative anymore that they're constraining you because I think that's what this new book is about for me is like I hit a point mid-career where it's just like I don't even remember why I got started I don't even remember what was fun about this I don't even really remember what it was like to start making things and putting them out in the world and so like to me it was about like there was a kind of exhaustion you know because Keep Going was like about showing up and showing up and showing up you know the Marshawn Lynch just ran through the face

But this book is like, what happens when that just isn't enough anymore, basically?

Yeah.

I mean, it's kind of the Carlin versus Seinfeld thing, you know, like Carlin did a new hour every year.

Right.

And that was the challenge.

But Seinfeld's a little bit more like, hey, I want your best stuff.

Yeah.

Like when you come.

So it's like finding a nice, like, I guess, middle path between that shut up and play the hits and like, oh, here's the new stuff.

Yes.

And every, you know, every band has to deal with that.

It's kind of.

Yeah.

But the thing I always try to keep in mind is like most people, it's cool that you're doing these talks where it's your audience showing up because they probably are familiar with your work.

Yeah.

When you do that.

Hello, Purina.

Yeah.

And you're like, whatever.