Austin Kleon

Like, hello, Indiana.

And like you get on stage like those people don't know.

They haven't ever heard you before.

And so it's fresh for them.

And I also think that's like something that's hard, like as a, you know, as a performer is that it's new to them.

They've never heard the stuff.

It's just not new to you.

Yes.

So like, how do you find a way to make sure you're delivering music?

The good stuff.

And then also like challenging yourself.

Well, you know, Bill Murray, it's this really goofy picture I found in the magazine.

And I think he has like a, he's got his belly exposed and he's like drawing a clown on it.

The really important part of the picture is there's this post-it and it says, stay light.

And it was a speech that he gave these ballplayers one time.

He said, you know, if you can stay light and loose and relaxed,

you can play at the highest level and he said that was true of like baseball acting or whatever and i just like always really took that to heart because i found it in my own work if i can stay light and have a sense of you know just to keep that sense of lightness of play a flow i do better you know keeping that sense of playfulness and so that's why i keep it up in the studio

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's a fun thing.

So when I first started out, I didn't have much of a space.