Avery Trufelman

Oh, my God.

What do you think the connection, because it's funny to look at Teatro de la Mode as a vestige of war, which it obviously is, but there's not a lot that's particularly warlike about it.

What do you think it says about conflict?

This episode was made back when Articles of Interest was a part of the podcast 99% Invisible.

So it was edited by Chris Berube with insights and other edits from the rest of the staff, including Joe Rosenberg, Emmett Fitzgerald, Vivian Leigh, Swan Real, Lasha Madan, Kurt Kolstad, Delaney Hall, and Katie Mingle.

And especially, especially my podfather, Roman Mars.

The music is by Ray Royal.

It was fact-checked by Tom Colligan.

It was mixed by Sharif Youssef and Catherine Raimondo.

And this kick-ass custom song is by Sasami.

For images of the Teatro de la Mode and images of the other fashion houses that all relied on miniatures during the pandemic, head to articlesofinterest.substack.com.

Sarah Gonzalez usually covers economics.

I mean, I don't cover fashion.

She's a reporter and host of the NPR podcast Planet Money.

So Sarah found herself in a pickle that a lot of us might relate to, which is this eternal question.

How do we buy clothing ethically?

Is that even possible?

Not even if those clothes were made in the USA.

Made in the USA is not the bastion of virtue that Sarah imagined it was and that I imagined it was, honestly.

But I had no idea what the garment industry in the United States actually looks like.