Avery Trufelman

Clothing is just the tip of the spear.

And I walked out of it being like, oh my god, I'm so much more connected to the military than I thought.

But totally in the opposite way that I thought.

Like it makes me kind of into the military style clothes.

And I never was before.

I was like, that's a fetishization of the military.

I'm anti that.

I started wearing camouflage and I started wearing combat boots.

Yeah, it's sort of like acknowledgement of the water I swim in, you know?

It's like, I think I used to feel really like rigid in my role as like, I'm a civilian, I'm anti-war, I don't do that.

And now I'm like, well, I am civilian and I am against war and...

These institutions also belong to me, and I have a say in them, and they are also for me, and they're part of, like, my long shared history as an American.

I have something to say about them, too.

Also, I do love the look.

I have come around to the look.

Thank you so much for having me on Planet Fashion.

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I'm Avery Truffleman.

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