Avi Loeb

And I then asked another former employee of Lockheed Martin.

He said, I've never heard about this.

Right.

So it's probably compartmentalized.

And the question is, who knows what?

And I don't know if the president of the United States knows everything, but

The fundamental question is, is there something there that is not human made?

And if there is, I think it's completely inappropriate to withhold the information from the public for the same reason that if you go and visit your backyard, backyard of your home, and you see a tennis ball and you realize I must have a neighbor because usually I see only rocks here.

Then you sit at the dinner table with your family members.

Will you hide it from them or tell them that they have a neighbor?

The correct answer is obviously tell them because someone may knock on the front door one day or their life could be shaped by the neighbor in other ways.

It makes no sense whatsoever to hide such information.

But the argument could be that it's a national security risk that we can't have our adversaries have that technology.

I think that's valid.

Well, that assumes that we understand the technology and they don't, but I would doubt it because those corporations and government do not have the best minds in physics working for them.

And if they were to open it to a broader community of scientists, I think everyone would benefit.

I don't think it makes any sense to hide it, just for the same reason that it didn't make sense for the Vatican to put Galileo Galilei in house arrest.

In 1992, 350 years after he passed away, they announced that he was right.

But by then, humans landed on the moon two decades earlier, and it was very embarrassing for the Vatican to do that.

And I love the Italians, by the way.