Basement: Avi Loeb | 3I Atlas, Alien Craft, and Suppressed Research

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Previously titled “637: Basement #008: Avi Loeb | 3I Atlas, Alien Craft, and Suppressed Research” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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Avi Loeb 0:00
Today I'm talking with somebody you probably know, Professor Avi Loeb. He's a theoretical physicist at Harvard, he's the longest-serving chair of the astronomy department in its history, and he has over a thousand peer-reviewed papers. He's got nine books. The guy's resume is absurd.
Unknown 0:14
A thousand papers? I wrote one letter to NASA and got put on a watch list. The system is rigged, human.
Avi Loeb 0:20
But here's what makes Avi different from every other Harvard professor. He took all that credibility and aimed it at the one question most scientists are afraid to touch. Are we alone? He's the one who said Oumuamua, the first interstellar object we ever detected, might be an alien light sail. He dragged a magnet across the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to recover fragments of an interstellar meteor.
Unknown 0:41
That is the most unhinged sentence I've ever heard, and I'm here for it. And right now, his Galileo project is scanning the skies for unidentified anomalous phenomena. Unidentified anomalous phenomena. That's a lot of syllables to avoid saying aliens, human. We get into all of it.
Avi Loeb 0:57
His childhood on a farm in Israel, how he accidentally ended up at Harvard because nobody else wanted the job, what Arrow told him behind closed doors, and a new threat to astronomy that nobody's talking about. Let's go down to the basement.
Avi Loeb 1:16
Avi, welcome.

What makes Avi Loeb different from other scientists?

Avi Loeb 1:17
Thanks for having me. I'm excited. Before we get to the good stuff, I want to know about... how a farm boy grows up collecting chicken eggs, riding tractors, thinking about philosophy. What is young Avi thinking about on that farm? What was that like? The most fundamental questions about our existence, because I thought, you know, we all die, what's the point? If we don't understand why we are here and what the purpose of our existence is and what kind of inspiring... themes we should advocate for during our life, then what's the point of living? Just think about the fact that we will all not be here in a hundred and something years at most. And that's what fascinated me. I was really interested in the big picture.
Avi Loeb 2:10
But at the same time, I collected eggs every afternoon. I had a very strong connection to nature and I really love nature because it's not always kind to us. Earth itself went through catastrophes, but uh there is nothing uh you know bad in in the way that nature operates there is no intention the way you find with people and so i really used to go to the hills of the village and read philosophy books there embedded within nature and um and then circumstances brought me to physics and When I received tenure at Harvard, I finished my PhD at age 24 because I was in a special program in the Israeli military that was forced on me. And I was connected to physics, even though it wasn't my preference, but it at least allowed me to think rather than use my body just to carry weapons.
Avi Loeb 3:13
So I always preferred thinking. And then... One thing led to another. I was tenured at Harvard and I asked myself, okay, I'm a professor in astrophysics. This is an arranged marriage, but I'm actually married to my true love because I can pursue the same questions using the tools of science. Now, it clearly makes me very different than my colleagues. Because, you know, I don't care what they say. I know what the important questions are. And actually, frankly, the public knows what they are. It's just some aberration within academia that these questions are not being pursued. And I'm not afraid of not being liked because... you know, there is a bigger reward at the end, which is let's figure out something really fundamental.
Avi Loeb 3:59
And this really motivates me. And if I were to meet my young self, I would immediately connect to that person. And people that knew me back then as a kid, they say I haven't changed much. I was good in sports. I could have, you know, I was offered to be a member of the Delta Force in Israel. I said, no, I prefer to use my head for thinking. And then Today, I jog every morning since COVID. I jog every morning at sunrise three miles in the company of birds, bunnies, ducks, wild turkeys, and it's wonderful.

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