Avi Loeb

And I decided I don't care about these stories from things that happened in the past or whatever.

I just want to figure it out myself from data, being guided by data.

Yes, so Gary, in collaboration with other scientists, looked into materials that were found under unusual circumstances, and they realized that the structure of the materials is very improbable to have been made naturally.

Now, the issue I have with that is whether...

these materials were indeed they came from the sky, from some extraterrestrial origin, or whether someone produced it.

Maybe it was another government that did something.

So I really, in terms of evidence, I really need to

get conclusive evidence that will convince me beyond any reasonable doubt.

It's just like in a jury.

But the key is that without seeking it, you will never find it.

So if you have the mindset that everything in the sky is rocks now, and that everything on earth is materials we are familiar with, either from humans or natural process on earth,

you will not invest time and resources to look for anything.

So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Very often, if you have these blinders, just like with a horse, you put blinders on your eyes, you can't look sideways, you don't see that there are things beyond your path, the path that is a beaten path.

Everyone is taking that path.

It's a waste of your time to do the same thing as others are doing.

And science offers you a way out of that, collecting evidence.

But for that, you need money, you need resources, you need prestige to be able to lead a team that goes in a different direction.

That's what I'm trying to do.

And I think science will be served much better if we were to explore different paths until we figure out the truth.