Avi Loeb

Not the ones that Gary looked at and I saw his papers.

But to me, the main uncertainty there is where did it come from?

Now, someone could have manufactured.

In the case of the meteor, I know that there was an explosion there from an object.

Yeah, this is very intriguing.

We didn't survey most of the ocean surface area.

Inside the ocean.

So I think we should definitely look into the ocean and the rest of Earth.

Okay, speaking about naughty things, let me mention an example.

You know, back in 1970, there was a graduate student at Princeton called Jacob Bekenstein.

And he read papers written by Stephen Hawking, who said...

He demonstrated, Stephen Hawking demonstrated that when you take two black holes, the area surrounding the black holes, a black hole is an ultimate prison.

Nothing can escape from it.

It's just like Vegas.

Anything that happens stays in it.

But when you merge two black holes, the area surrounding them, the product of the merger, is always bigger than the sum of the areas.

He demonstrated that mathematically.

And then Bekenstein said, well, that's interesting because we know about the second law of thermodynamics where entropy always increases.

So maybe the black holes have entropy related to their surface.

And his mentor was John Wheeler at Princeton.