Ayesha Roscoe

It just kept being a cycle that continued on repeating itself.

We have treatment facilities in the U.S.

So, I mean, did he really need to go all the way to Italy?

And I'm assuming that's not enough.

And 12-step meetings, that's like Alcoholics Anonymous, right?

Do we know how well AA works at keeping people sober?

That percentage, I would have thought it would have been higher.

I mean, that doesn't seem like a lot.

Well, but unlike AA, rehab programs are not free.

My experience in Florida, I ended up, you know, going from flophouse to flophouse, homeless, strung out, given all of these promises of, you know, the luxurious life of I live where you vacation.

And really, like, it's seedy.

It's dark.

It's not something you would ever imagine when you hear the words treatment.

So what is so different about the style of treatment in Italy at San Patrignano?

When we come back, we return to Italy.

I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and you're listening to The Sunday Story.

We're talking to journalist Deborah Becker about drug treatment and a model drug treatment community in Italy.

So, Deb, tell me more about the design of San Patrignano.

So how does all of this work?

Like who runs all these businesses?