Aza Raskin
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521 appearances
3 recordings
2 series
first heard Mar 2026
last heard 27 Aug
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Like how you start working on this kind of problem, because in some sense, all the other evals are much, much easier to do than humane evals, because you're measuring the machine's capabilities.
And here it's flipping the script and you're measuring what it does to humans.
You're measuring like human capabilities and effects.
And so walk me through why this is such a hard problem and then how you met Jared and how that sort of shifted the way you think about how we tackled this really challenging issue.
Do you have any sense of what that ratio is right now of the number of people that are working on capabilities and capabilities benchmarks to like how it affects human beings?
Yeah.
Yeah, it would not surprise me if it was more.
Because I think safety research um to capabilities research is like two thousand to one is what um Stuart Russell calculated.
So I'd imagine this is probably even lower than that.
And I think everyone should just like let that sink in.
Because that means
There are at least a thousand more people, and at least a thousand.
times more dollars going into understanding whether the AI does what you ask it to versus are you and your children like better off after you use it or worse off after you use the product?
Like that that's an insane thing to be putting almost all humanity through.
But
Yeah, that that that's exactly right.
So this is for both of you.
Um, are they AI companies have you discovered that they're doing any of this kind of research for themselves?
Yeah, I I think getting independent researcher access to this kind of data is so key.
Cause you know the uh
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