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Azeem Azhar

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

The amount that goes in online advertising and buying software is well over a trillion dollars a year, and it's already growing at 14% a year.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So I think part of the question is, how much could AI increase that growth rate?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And how much would it displace

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

existing companies who are not using AI.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And so there is a journey.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I think one of the big investment banks talks about a trillion dollars of revenue a year in 2030, which, you know, it's not a shoo-in, but it's not completely pie in the sky.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

You know, it's somewhere in between.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Wow.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Well, I mean, that would be really grim.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

It would be a little bit like

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

feudal Russia, only the Tsar is even richer and the serfs are even poorer.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So, I mean, when you paint it that way, without there being really significant policy interventions, you'd essentially have a giant vacuum cleaner in San Francisco sucking up all of the money in the

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

AI systems and even companies that are operating with their own products will be paying so much economic rent to the AI companies that they'll have the slimmest of margins, just like sharecroppers on a 17th century English farm.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And I think that that direction

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

absent any policy interventions, and if the technology worked out the way you described it, would probably be a direction that we would end up traveling.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Now, my bet is that the AGI vision won't play out the way people think it will.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I think it'll take much longer to get this technology in the economy.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I think...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

It'll just be harder to get that robot that can do anything and everything.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And I also think that at some point, as we saw in Caledonia, Wisconsin, people would stand up and say, hey, we need to change this script.