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Azeem Azhar

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6838 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But the question is, when we look out over three or five years, will we start to see benefits emerging from it?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So it turns not less to be a black hole and more to be an M-class star.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Well, I think they'll make back the money if the revenues show up.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So we can talk about revenues later in the discussion, but you've put your finger on one of the uglier parts of all of this, which is that, you know, of the three, $400 billion that will go into data centers this year,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

About 50% to 60% will be in those GPUs.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So we'll call it a couple of hundred billion.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And the companies themselves mostly keep them on their books for six years.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So that's a long time, but it's not a canal or a railroad.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And as we know, within three years, they have to move out of frontline service.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So I think that there is a bit of an ugliness in the way that this is accounted for.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

It is something that we should keep our eye on.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Now, they may argue, well, the GPUs make money and we're paid back within two years, which is what it seems to be the case.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And they still have some useful life in 6.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But it feels like it's a bit of a thin argument.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And this is one area where I think we could...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Ask for, hope for, but we won't get better rules around how GPUs should get depreciated, the kind of tax incentives companies should get because they are effectively operational expenses and greater transparency.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Somebody sent me an email about this and they said that...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

In China, the accounting rules are such that computer chips are effectively depreciated over a three year maximum five year period.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So I think this is a you know, this is one of those ugly pimples of this picture that we should just stare at and say this could turn into a problem.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Well, I mean, it is worrying, but it's just not where other things were.