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Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

You know, it's an intangible asset that may not have that much salvage value, especially if people in the team leave.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

I think exactly the right thing to do is to be building out ahead of time and you see that investment J curve.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

I think the two kind of challenges around this model are

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Number one, is the open AI model the only way to do this?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And I don't just mean from the financial side.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

I also mean from the strategic focus side.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

We've seen Anthropic do something completely different.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And the second challenge is, and I think we went part of the way to answering this question, is, is there a path to positive unit economics?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

In other words, are they producing something for X dollars that they can sell for 1.3 X dollars?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Are they producing something for X dollars that they sell for half an X dollar?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Which was the story of a lot of the .com, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Cosmo.com and all these other things.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And I think we got partway to answering that second question, which is that

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Yes, it's expensive.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Yes, there is, you know, some kind of gross profit margin.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

The level that we estimate, I think Hannah can speak more accurately to this, is, you know, lower than a traditional software business.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So we're learning that perhaps foundation labs don't look like software businesses.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

They look like something different.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

But, you know, these are the things I think that we have to play around with.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

We've seen some success with ads and gen AI.