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Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And the reason they didn't was a problem of knowledge.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

We didn't know how to make them.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

It was a 100-year journey from the basic physics to

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

through to the first transistors 50 years later in the 1950s and 60s through to the first red LED in 1960.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I was explaining to my team that the reason the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica in the 1970s and Knight Rider both have red LED things around their face, the kit car, is because those are the only LEDs we could make at the time.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And that was the future.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And we didn't get blue LEDs until the late 1990s.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And now it took five years for everyone to transition.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

If you can compress any part of that process, you can deliver enormous consumer benefit, but it may not show up in GDP.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

it may just show up in better services.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Well, I gave you the excitable bull case there, but there is also the bear case that you alluded to through the Ben Jones paper, which makes me think of a year or so ago, Microsoft had a foundation model look at catalysts.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And I think they

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

came up with 35 million materials in one afternoon.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And I thought back to Mitlach, who was Fritz Haber's co-worker on the Haber-Bosch process, who painstakingly looked at 2,500 compounds over the course of many, many months.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And so we moved from a

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

discovery process to actually a sifting and verification bottleneck, which those bottlenecks maybe require new skills, they might require new regulation, they might require sociological changes.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And so it might take quite a long time to work all your way through the system.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

You know, you just essentially move the bottleneck from discovery or work done to

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

sorting or verification.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And that might just slow us down again, and it becomes not so much the burden of knowledge, but the burden of sifting.