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Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And so it was just a small incremental amount.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

And then the AI folks show up and they say, well, AI can massively increase the amount of knowledge being produced and we can get an exponential takeoff.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So the mistake I made, long and short of it, was I said, but kind of Roma doesn't,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

accommodate for that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Nathan, my researcher, who's actually bothering to read the paper in detail, says, no, that's not right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

He does.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

He's got his coefficient or variable called phi, I think it is.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

If phi is one or above, you get exponential takeoff, but in general, phi has been below one.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

That's where I got caught out.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

1990, endogenous technological change was the paper.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

I had just read my

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

summary and of course not the detail and thank god i had nathan there to uh to set me right but then my question to you is looking at that do you and what you see do you see a path where we get over the burden of knowledge and we do get to see that exponential

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So look, but let's do this.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

Let's stay on this future track just for a second and I'll bring us back to ground because people are living lives in 2026 and we need to help throw some light on that.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

So it does feel to me that this is something that is on a knife-edge balance, which is that if you are able to automate research end-to-end, and we're starting to see a number of companies out there funded by private capital trying to do this, you could, in principle, get to a point where

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

discoveries happen faster and faster.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

One of my favorite examples is, you know, why didn't your parents use LED light bulbs when you were a kid?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

LED light bulbs are better.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

They use less energy.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Anthropic’s Head of Economics on AI adoption data, Claude Code, the burden of knowledge & the next generation of experts

They're more controllable.